[TRNSYS-users] question related to type2

Angel Carrera angel.carrera at aiguasol.coop
Fri Jan 24 05:34:50 PST 2014


Carol,

I forgot one more thing: make sure that the output control function is
connected to the same type "input control function", cheers

Angel


2014/1/24 Angel Carrera <angel.carrera at aiguasol.coop>

>
> Egun on Carol,
>
> I think there a two basic reasons for this:
>
> 1-The controller gets stuck due to a lack of stability of your model.
> Parameter 1 sets the number of oscillations that the controller can do in a
> single time step; if the controller changes of state while trnsys is
> iterating within a time step, it will never do it (change) more times than
> the value you have set in parameter 1, so it gets fixed when the number of
> changes reaches that value. I can't explain it better than it is done in
> the user help (at least in english), so I recommend you to carefully read
> the introduction in the controllers section of the mathematical reference
> on the trnsys help as well as type 2b section. To solve this, usually the
> best you can do is reduce you time step until you have a coherent behaviour
> of the controller.
>
> 2-The monitoring temperature is governing the controller. If the Input
> Control Functio (inputs tab of the proforma) exceeds the value of the
> parameter 2, then the controller output is set to 0.
>
> I imagine that the first possibility is the one explaining that behaviour;
> reducing the time step is probably a good help for your model, good luck
>
> Angel
>
>
> 2014/1/24 Pascual Ortiz, Carol <carol.pascual at tecnalia.com>
>
>>  Hi TRNSYS user,
>>
>>
>>
>> In my last simulation I use type 2 on/off differential controllers and I
>> do not know why sometimes it works ok and others doesn´t.
>>
>>
>>
>> For example Time step                temperature
>>                       control  signal
>>
>>                                 4016,65
>> 25                                                  0
>>
>>                                 4016,70
>> 25                                                  1
>>
>>                                 4016,75
>> 25                                                  0
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you know what I am doing wrong? Does this ever happen to you?
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Carol Pascual*
>>
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*Àngel Carrera*


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