[TRNSYS-users] Type 28
David BRADLEY
d.bradley at tess-inc.com
Fri Dec 13 07:35:03 PST 2013
Wang,
Type28 is able to perform some manipulations on its inputs in order
to perform energy balances or unit conversions. The manipulations are
specified through a list of numeric codes that appears in the third
field of the "special cards" tab in the proforma. The error that you are
obtaining is saying that one of the operation codes specifies that a
manipulation should be performed on an output that doesn't exist. For
example, you would get this error if the operation codes specify that
the 5th output of component X should be moved onto the stack but
component X only has 4 outputs.
I would strongly recommend that you not use Type28's ability to
perform these manipulations. It is very easy to make an error when
setting up a list of operation codes. Instead, I would recommend that
you use a block of equations to perform the unit conversions or energy
balances that you want, then pass the result of those equations to a
more standard output device (Type25 or Type46).
Regards,
David
On 12/9/2013 05:26, 王洋 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Good Day!
>
> I met an error when I used Type 28 as follows.
>
> *** Notice at time : 0.100000
> Generated by Unit : 40
> Generated by Type : 28
> TRNSYS Message 446 : The maximum value from the result of the
> supplied CHECK statement for this unit for the simulation is shown
> below. A value of zero implies that the energy balance was perfectly
> satisfied.
> Reported information : Maximum Error = 0.000000000000000E+000
>
>
> Please see the attached deck file of this program.
>
> Who had some experiences to deal with this problem?
>
> Many thanks in advance!
> Br.
>
> yang wang
>
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> 1. Re: Workspace for TESS libraries (David BRADLEY)
> 2. Re: Workspace for TESS libraries (David BRADLEY)
> 3. Re: doors in sketchup /TRNbuild (David BRADLEY)
> 4. Re: CHILLER PERFORMANCE DATA (Jeremy Osborne)
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> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:17:25 -0600
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Workspace for TESS libraries
> Chun Kwong,
> We made the decision with the release of the v17 libraries not
> to distribute those workspaces. It was hard to manage their
> settings and new versions of the compiler continue to be released
> and are challenging to manage. I would recommend that you simply
> use the MyType project that is part of the IVF11x solution. You
> can add as many Types to that MyType project as you want.
> Kind regards,
> David
>
>
> On 12/3/2013 18:38, C K Lee wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I have previously installed TRNSYS 17 together with the TESS
> libraries. However, unlike TRNSYS 16, I can't find where the
> workspace for the TESS libraries is located. Does anyone
> know? If so, please advise. Thank you!
>
> Best Regards
> LEE, Chun Kwong
> City University of Hong Kong
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> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:17:25 -0600
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Workspace for TESS libraries
> Chun Kwong,
> We made the decision with the release of the v17 libraries not
> to distribute those workspaces. It was hard to manage their
> settings and new versions of the compiler continue to be released
> and are challenging to manage. I would recommend that you simply
> use the MyType project that is part of the IVF11x solution. You
> can add as many Types to that MyType project as you want.
> Kind regards,
> David
>
>
> On 12/3/2013 18:38, C K Lee wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I have previously installed TRNSYS 17 together with the TESS
> libraries. However, unlike TRNSYS 16, I can't find where the
> workspace for the TESS libraries is located. Does anyone
> know? If so, please advise. Thank you!
>
> Best Regards
> LEE, Chun Kwong
> City University of Hong Kong
>
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> 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
> Madison, WI 53703 USA
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> UW-Madison" <trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
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> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:19:44 -0600
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] doors in sketchup /TRNbuild
> Mohamed,
> I would recommend that you treat glass doors as windows in
> Trnsys3D (ie draw them in Trnsys3D but set them to a different
> type of glass construction then your windows so that it will be
> easier to modify them later in TRNBuild). For opaque doors, the
> easiest thing to do is to simply add them in TRNBuild afterwards.
> Kind regards,
> David
>
>
> On 12/4/2013 08:09, Mohamed Khabbaz wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> When I import my 3D model (.idf) from Sketchup to TRNbuild,
>> Trnbuild does not know doors and glass doors ( But TRNbuild
>> knows windows).
>>
>>
>> what must I make to resolve this situation?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>> Best regards.
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> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:24:29 +1100
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] CHILLER PERFORMANCE DATA
>
> Dear Laho
>
> There are usually data files in the component file (tmf) which can
> be edited for each instance the chiller is used. Please see the
> picture below. There is example files available for the chiller
> usually and you can click edit. Please see the component
> mathematical reference for the type you require for the details.
>
> What chiller kind (compression, absorption) are you modelling?
> What trnsys type are you wanting to use?
>
> These are important as the Fortran code underlying the type is
> important to understand because it times, the default method is
> not ideally suited and needed modification. We’ve edited the
> component to suit our needs and only use two data files and shown
> in the image before for a type 677 chiller from the TESS extension.
>
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 December 2013 9:15 PM
> *To:* TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu <mailto:TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu>
> *Subject:* [TRNSYS-users] CHILLER PERFORMANCE DATA
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> HOW CAN I MODIFY THE FILE WHICH CONTAINS THE CHILLER PART LOAD
> PERFORMANCE DATA?
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