[TRNSYS-users] open the former *.skp file with TRNSYS3D

David BRADLEY d.bradley at tess-inc.com
Thu Mar 31 11:41:01 PDT 2011


Just in case it is not clear, it is also worth mentioning that an *.idf 
file exists only if the SketchUp drawing was saved by the Trnsys3D 
plugin as a *.idf file. If what you are drawing in SketchUp is shades of 
grey, chances are that you are not drawing with the Trnsys3D plugin but 
with SketchUp itself; in this case there won't be anything for the 
plugin to save as it does not "see" SketchUp objects. If the shapes that 
you are drawing turn yellow (for walls) and red (for roofs) then you are 
drawing in the Trnsys3D plugin and you can save (and then later reopen) 
the *.idf file. Bear in mind that you save the *.idf using the save icon 
in the Trnsys3D toolbar NOT by selecting "save" from the "file" menu.


On 3/31/2011 07:48, Matt Duffy wrote:
> There are two ways to open the *.idf.
>
> 1.) the Plugins menu: Plugins --> Trnsys3d --> Open
>
> 2.) the T3d open icon (see attached)
>
>
> Again, do not save any *.skp, do not worry about any *.skp, and do not 
> open any *.skp. All of the information is in the *.idf.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matt Duffy
>
>
> *----- Original Message -----*
> *From:* "王洋" <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thu, March 31, 2011 7:33
> *Subject:* Re: [TRNSYS-users] open the former *.skp file with TRNSYS3D
>
> Dear Mr. Duffy,
>
>     Thanks! But how to open the *.idf file? By what? Simulation Studio 
> or Sketchup etc.?
>
>     Many thanks!
>
>    Br.
>
> wang
>
>
> 2011/3/31 Matt Duffy <duffy at tess-inc.com <mailto:duffy at tess-inc.com>>
>
>
>     Dear TRNSYS Users,
>
>     There seems to be this question very often. Please remember to
>     work in the TRNSYS3D plugin (Open, Save, Close the *.idf) and NOT
>     open/close/save in SketchUp (*.skp). You do not even need to save
>     any *.skp.
>
>     Thank you,
>
>     Matt Duffy
>
>     *----- Original Message -----*
>     *From:* "王洋" <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>>
>     *Sent:* Thu, March 31, 2011 3:02
>     *Subject:* [TRNSYS-users] open the former *.skp file with TRNSYS3D
>     Dear all,
>
>        How to open the former *.skp file correctly?
>
>       When I open it, it always shows as follows:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     Sorry...the plugin has encountered an error.  This error may cause
>     unpredictable behavior in the plugin--continue this session with
>     caution!  It would probably be a good idea to exit SketchUp and
>     start again.
>
>     For help, please contact the TRNSYS newsgroup by
>     https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users .
>
>      When reporting a bug, please include the error message and
>     backtrace below (scroll down):
>
>     ERROR:
>     NameError
>     wrong constant name lorScaleInterface
>
>     BACKTRACE:
>     C:/Programme/Google/Google SketchUp
>     7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `const_get'
>     C:/Programme/Google/Google SketchUp
>     7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `restore_state'
>     C:/Programme/Google/Google SketchUp
>     7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `initialize'
>     C:/Programme/Google/Google SketchUp
>     7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:13:in `call'
>
>     Please give some suggustions!
>
>     Many thanks!
>
>     Br.
>
>     wang
>
>
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>           3. trnsys3d pug-in sketchup8 : problem of adjacent wall for
>              several others zones (Pauline GELIN)
>           4. Re: Soil noding plugin for Googlesketchup. (Jeff Thornton)
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>         ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>         From: Pauline GELIN <p.gelin at katene.fr <mailto:p.gelin at katene.fr>>
>         To: "TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu
>         <mailto:TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu>" <TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu
>         <mailto:TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu>>
>         Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:21:13 +0200
>         Subject: [TRNSYS-users] problem of IDF File from Sketchup8 in
>         TRNBUILD
>
>         (SketchUp 8 (with some hours on Sketchup Pro eval), Operating
>         system:Windows Vista)
>
>         From a 2D plan created in Nova, I had to create in 3D each
>         zone/room separated to, after, copy them in one different
>         trnsys3d zone for each.
>
>         After I had to identify each adjacent wall between all the rooms.
>
>         Then, I saved a IDf File and wanted to import it in TRNBuild.
>
>         There was this following message :
>
>         "Zone: ARCH 1 Airnode: ARCH1 (it is the nam of one of my rooms)
>
>         Wall must have an active layer or chilled ceiling layer or
>         must be adjacent to a different zone
>
>         ADJ_WALL Surf 13
>
>         "
>
>         I don't understand what this means because this room includes
>         3 external walls and only one adj_wall.
>
>         And as on Sketchup we can't identify several adjacent rooms, I
>         linked this adj_wall with the room with the most common
>         surface which is even not 13m².
>
>         Is there anyone who can tell me what I can change to succeed
>         my import ?
>
>         Thank you so much for your help.
>
>         Best Regards,
>
>         Pauline Gelin
>
>
>
>         ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>         From: Philip Horn <phorn at fraunhofer.org
>         <mailto:phorn at fraunhofer.org>>
>         To: "trnsys-users at engr.wisc.edu
>         <mailto:trnsys-users at engr.wisc.edu>"
>         <trnsys-users at engr.wisc.edu <mailto:trnsys-users at engr.wisc.edu>>
>         Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:49:56 -0400
>         Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Polymer PV-T absorber/ Type 560
>
>         Dear All,
>
>         I want to simulate an unglazed  polymer PV-T collector in TRNSYS.
>
>         I was wondering if anyone has done this already, or could give
>         some advice?
>
>         My plan is to take Type 560 and modify some parameters (heat
>         conductivity, heat transfer coefficients (want to model
>         rectangular “tubes”).
>
>         It must not be 100% accurate in the beginning, more like a
>         first estimation.
>
>         Would be glad if someone could give some helpful input.
>
>         Best Regards,
>
>         Philip
>
>         *Philip Horn*
>         *Fraunhofer Center for Sustainable Energy Systems CSE*
>         25 First Street
>
>         Cambridge, MA 02141, U.S.A.
>         +1 617-575 7250 x139
>         phorn at fraunhofer.org <mailto:astokes at fraunhofer.org>
>         http://cse.fraunhofer.org/
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>         ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>         From: Pauline GELIN <p.gelin at katene.fr <mailto:p.gelin at katene.fr>>
>         To: "trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>         <mailto:trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>" <trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>         <mailto:trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>>
>         Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:23:19 +0200
>         Subject: [TRNSYS-users] trnsys3d pug-in sketchup8 : problem of
>         adjacent wall for several others zones
>
>         SketchUp version:sketchup8
>         Operating system:windows xp
>
>
>         I am so sorry to ask a so easy question but I didn't find how
>         to link a wall to several others zones.
>         Indeed, in the object info we can only choose one zone.
>         But, if I cut my zone into 2 parts and, for example, erase the
>         adjacent wall to recreate it in trnbuild, after, there is no
>         more interest to use sketchup and it would be quicker to do
>         everything in trnbuild.
>
>         Is there anyone who already met this problem?
>         Do you have a solution ?
>
>         Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         Pauline Gelin.
>
>
>
>         ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>         From: "Jeff Thornton" <thornton at tess-inc.com
>         <mailto:thornton at tess-inc.com>>
>         To: "Sébastien THOMAS" <sebastien.thomas at ulg.ac.be
>         <mailto:sebastien.thomas at ulg.ac.be>>,
>         trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu <mailto:trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>
>         Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:48:25 -0500 (CDT)
>         Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Soil noding plugin for Googlesketchup.
>         <I am attempting to run the « Soil Noding 2D » plugin for
>         sketchup.
>         Unfortunately I did not reach to build any mesh in the text
>         file.   In
>         fact, I have the following messages but no mesh at the end of the
>         procedure :      TESS Soil & Slab Noding program for TRNSYS
>         17.  How far
>         the building is the temperature of the soil assumed unaffected
>         by the
>         building….     Has someone good knowledge of this plugin ? >
>
>         Did you answer the question posed by the plugin?  Put in
>         something like 10
>         meters and hit enter.  Then continue to answer the questions
>         until the
>         program informs you that the data file has been created.  We
>         use it all
>         the time!
>
>         Jeff
>
>
>         Jeff Thornton
>         President - TESS, LLC
>
>         22 North Carroll Street - Suite 370
>         Madison WI 53703 USA
>
>         Phone: 608-274-2577
>         Fax: 608-278-1475
>         E-mail: thornton at tess-inc.com <mailto:thornton at tess-inc.com>
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