[UA] The Bartman Baseball
Sean Griffith
srg at pdx.edu
Wed Nov 19 11:40:12 PST 2003
I felt like a monster reincarnation of Horatio Alger.
A man on the move, and just sick enough to be totally confident.
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Hammons, Jade wrote:
> Honestly, I don't think not being from the US has anything to do with it :) I thought it was someone from Algeria for a long time to, and was completely confused by it. I even understood the rags to riches thing, and know who Horatio Algers was, but never thought of using his name as an adjective like that. On day I was working on some TNI stuff for a game, and watching TLC (The Learning Channel) and they started talking about Horatio Algers, and it clicked.
>
> Jade Hammons
>
> Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam. - Julius Caeser
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> I have to agree. I didn't get the Algerian thing too.
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> Áðü: "Jesus Couto" <jcouto at csc.com>
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> Çìåñïìçíßá: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:45:16 +0100
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> I was kidding, but I'm not apologizing. Its not US bashing, and is not lack
> of interest in learning another culture.
>
> I love the fact that UA is US-centric ingame (the same way I love, say, the
> psedo-japanese elements of Legend of the Five Rings), and I would love to
> have the creativity to give people an Spanish take on UA. Both things are
> good.
>
> But the books are US-centric in the sense of lack of context, like the mail
> from Greg about this really infamous ball (look, it has us fighting here! :
> -P). They assume everyone reading knows US culture at a level that is just
> not true (as somebody else said, we all know TV USA)
>
> The best example I can think of is a mistake on the translation of
> "Bullets, Money and Lawyers", where we got the puzzling statement of Abel
> being told his arquetype was "El Heroe Argelino" (Hero from Algeria) and we
> all were trying to figure out what the hell had that north african country
> to do with Abel. Horatio Alger is a complete unknown author here and the
> translator screwed up :-)
>
> Footnotes and short exposition for non-americans ("Algerian Hero, from
> Horatio Alger's novels of..") would help this absolutely wonderful game to
> sell better overseas. And as I love the game, I'd love to see it making it
> big all over the world.
>
> Jesús Couto F.
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