[UA] Minor cards

Haroudo Xavier haroudo at terra.com.br
Sun Feb 16 12:34:26 PST 2003


Ok lets go... :)

I don't agree about the Martyr coz it IS a very strong decision to give
yourself away. The point of the Hanged Man is just that: he can't choose. I
think the same happens to the Confessor. He will not make choises, just
listen. He can't relish the sins, nor impede them, just hear them and wait
for the best. He is locked in this role, an inaction role. The Martyr is,
otherwise, quite active, quite passionate.

Ok, i even had done a mistake with the actual stalker image....But that's
another topic....

I had choose the demagogue, but i agree, could be the two faced man. I will
look into it.

About the Dark Stalker as the Tower...The Tower is the only Tarot card where
i can only see disaster, destruction without an ending. The Dark Stalker for
me is just that: something that has as only pourpose, the utterly
destruction of all. That's the association. And buildings are strong
associated with the figure of the serial killers, specially in the 70's,
80's. Nowdays, i think Snipers are a way bit more. Anyway, the idea is to
have people in the cards as faces that could be the avatars or the ascended
itself, in this case you choose.

Thanks. Is a work im loving to do. Quite tiring sometimes, but i really
enjoy it.

Well, since at this phase of the project im still working in the cards (like
the xecutioner, wich i had change little bits of it and upload again about
three times) this would be too much at the moment. Besides, this cards are
not "to print" version, just versions with lower resolution. I will zip all
the major when i see it an with a relief i could say: it's done! :)

The problem with specific NPCs will be to find specific models. :)
Im owing favors to a lot of people thanks to these photos. :)
im thinking about it in a more abstract approach. The structure of this
tarot in the end, is very like the one from The Vertigo Tarot. Caracters in
the major arcana and concepts on the minor.

it could be lots of things. On set (wands, coins, cups or swords) could be
magick schools, anothers could be cabals, another could be critters, etc.
The "royalty", King, Queen, etc, could be characters or even use pictures of
the people of the UA-list :).
This would even make it a little easier to use the deck in the RPG.

[]s,

Haroudo Xavier, the King of Wands

"I like a man who grins when he fights"
Winston Churchill

"Satellite from days of old, lead me to your access code!"
 Ed, Cowboy Bebop

"Omnia Mutantir, Nihil Interit"
Neil Gaiman, Sandman 75

I have nothing to offer but
blood, toil, tears, and sweat.
W. Churchill, XXth century

In a mixed ship, the last thing a trooper hears before a drop (maybe the
last
word he ever hears) is a woman's voice, wishing him luck. If you don't think
this is important, you've probably resigned from the human race.
- Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers


----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Parsons <edward-parsons at ntlworld.com>
To: <ua at lists.uchicago.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [UA] Minor cards


> Just a couple of ideas about the main arcana (sorry to be picky):
>
> The Martyr fits better with the Hanged man symbolically (IMHO), as it has
a
> longer history of association. Also link with the haziness of the ultimate
> martyr's death (Jesus seems to have been hanged according to the first
> gospels, only one of them even mention a crucifix). Just my idea.
>
> What about making the Two Faced Man the Devil (or the outsider), and make
> the Demagogue the Tower? I can't really see a link between the dark
stalker
> and that card.
>
> Aside from that, GREAT job. Very very very well done. Maybe you should
> package the major Arcana as a zip file for a single download?
> For Minor Arcana, how about having NPC's from the supplements and
scenarios?
> Divide the suits into the different factions and go from thier (Sleepers
> (swords) NI (coins) Other Dukes (Wands) and Mundane Nutcases
(Tomes)...Those
> are right names for the suits aren't they? My tarot isn't very good.
>
>
> Yrs Sincerely
> Edward Parsons/ Moloch/Bonobojim/Cthulhu101
>
> A Pre Dawn Dross-Spear Sword DNA-Dread Warp Sons
>
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