[UA] OT WW bashing (was Horror) (was Something Under the Stairs)

[Royal Minister of Stuff]

--- James O'Rance <jorance at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Royal Minister of Stuff <yokeltania at yahoo.com> said:
> 
>  >>>And don't be too hard on your players, either. 
> When was the last time 
> you felt like playing an shallow, self-righteous
> supernatural being who's 
> afraid to act for fear you might not look cool
> anymore.<<<

I was talking about Elves. Honestly.  I just played in
this Boffer LARP where almost everyone had (I swear to
God) greenish-tinted spock ears.  I tried to convince
them to wear these long, glittery cleopatra wigs my
wife has, but nothing doing.

> 
> Wolfies making fun of D&D players is like the
> high-school in-crowd making fun 
> of the geeks. Likewise, Kult and UA players trashing
> the wolfies is like 
> serious Arts students mocking the high-school
> in-crowd. There are probably 
> people who have some witty things to say about UA
> players (like say, their 
> inability to talk about UA on a UA list?).

That would be my sister, the world-travelling computer
genius/corporate climber.  But she's a lot more blunt
than I care to repeat.

> 
> There's a tangential connection between the original
> statements about horror 
> and wolfie bashing; it's about maturity. You can't
> really have effective 
> horror unless all participants understand and enjoy
> mature play. 

Okay.  This is what really gets me about wolfies. 
They are like the high school "in crowd" you have
mentioned because they never shut up about maturity. I
don't think wolfies know what maturity is.  I know
that, when I'm desperate enough for a game that I pop
into a Camarilla function, I'll discover that the
average wolfie does not know what a story is (or, at
least, what character motivation is.)  As someone else
pointed out, it's like a leathered-up version of the
Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test where it's okay to kill
people who are uncool.

See, I don't think you need to be mature to understand
horror and I don't think you should HAVE to be mature
for a game to work.  People piss and moan about the
lowest common demoninator but, when you come right
down to it, it's the LCD which ties everything
together.  A good game appeals to BOTH the venal and
the intellectual -and it delivers to both.

I think CoC kinda works, if you can twist people's arm
enough to play it, because HPL was pretty good at
horror (and that momma's boy was definitely not mature
by almost any standard.)  I think UA works because
there's guns and violence and twisted magic powers
which are all based on a kind of "everyone's got a
shot" basis, even the NPCs.

But whenever someone whines about maturity on a games
behalf -any game, though mostly WW stuff- I just wanna
run their panties up the flagpole.

In your case, though, I salute your roleplaying
ability, your grasp of sexuality and your really cool
idea about the old man.

(snip, etc.)
> 
> At least they're not hanging around coffee houses
> reading excruciating 
> poetry or going to clubs and not dancing (as much).

Hey! You better be talking about elves, man.


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-- Rp Bowman, Royal Minister of Stuff
The Electronic Nation of Yokeltania:
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