[UA] Archetype: The Man Against The Twilight (?)

[Charles Garton]

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From: IamRebis at aol.com <IamRebis at aol.com>
To: ua at lists.uchicago.edu <ua at lists.uchicago.edu>
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 11:44 AM
Subject: [UA] Archetype: The Man Against The Twilight (?)

>question to the list is:
>
>  Do you think that this could be a valid archetype?

Yes.  However I think that the channels you envision are misdirected.
Someone who wishes to forestall the end of the world and keep the clergy
from filling up gains nothing by killing or thwarting other avatars.
Avatars are representatives of already established archtypes.  Killing an
avatar or Godwalker of The Masterless Man would not lessen the fact that the
Masterless Man archetype exists within the clergy.  Channels which would
help detect and stop ascensions which will create new archetypes would be
more appropriate to the character's goals.  Perhaps the Godwalker of The Man
Against the Twilight could have a channel which allows him to completely
obliterate another archetype by killing its Godwalker, but that would be a
pretty high power campaign.

 >Do you think that
>someone else could have already ascended as this archetype?

Possibly, in fact, It would be necessary for someone to have already
ascended if your player's character is to have any channels.  As I
understand it, the person who first ascends to a position in the clergy has
no special abilities from the archetype, since that archetype doesn't yet
exist.  Once the originator of an archetype ascends, then avatar's of that
type will start to develop.  However, I do like the irony that the ascension
of the Man Against the Twilight puts the universe one ascension closer to
renewal.  It would be particullarly funny if this was the 332nd position in
the clergy to fill.

>Do you think
>that there could have been at least one other person of this age who
>understood about the 333, and wanted and tried to stop it so much that it
>became a part of universal consciousness and thus allowed him to ascend?


That is a problem, but their have been doomsayers throughout history
attempting convince the world that the end is nigh.  Perhaps The Man Against
the Twilight could represent any person who fights against the end of the
world, be it the OC's version, biblical, or atomic.  As one starts down this
path, one could be out to stop the invisible clergy from filling up, or one
could just be dedicated to stoping any kind of apocalypse, , biblical,
biological (ebola), and nuclear come to mind.  But as one channels the Man
Against the Twilight, one starts to understand more and more about the
invisible clergy, and starts to gain the ability to see what archetype might
be the next one to ascent.  From there the avatar would start to gain the
ability to find ways, violently or otherwise, to stop that ascension.

Also, unless you see some reason for this archetype to be particullarly
male, you might want to give it a gender neutral name.  "Person Against the
Twilight" doesn't sound very good though.  Maybe "Defier of the Twilight".

Hope this was of some use,
Geoff




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