[TRNSYS-users] questions about type 56 building model and chiller

David BRADLEY d.bradley at tess-inc.com
Mon Sep 14 10:05:33 PDT 2015


Zhuo Li,
  Without seeing your project files, it is not possible to determine the 
cause of the unrealistically high temperatures. I would recommend that 
you send your project files to your distributor's technical support 
hotline for assistance.

   The warnings that you are receiving may well be related to the high 
temperatures. Performance maps in TRNSYS usually contain data for a 
range of inlet conditions. For example the samp_c.dat file contains 
performance data for chillers whose return chilled water temperatures 
are between 4.4C and 10C. If the water returning to the chiller is above 
10C then the performance data returned from the map may not be valid. If 
the problem happens only a few times during the simulation then it can 
usually be ignored. If the situation arises often then either the system 
configuration or the data file need to be changed so that valid 
performance data is returned.

kind regards,
  David


On 09/14/2015 01:00, Zhuo Li wrote:
>
> Dear Trnsys users,
>
> I am using type 56 to model an air conditioning system for a 
> three-story building. In my program, each floor has an air handling 
> unit and the external air relative humidity ratio,mass flow rate, and 
> temperature are obtained as ventilation inputs to building model from 
> Type 607, which is connected to cooling coils (type 508).The 
> temperatures of thermal zones of 1st floor are within acceptable 
> range, whereas temperatures of thermal zones of 2nd and 3rd floor are 
> going infinitely high. How can I solve this problem?
>
> In addition, I encountered problems with chiller and ducts. The 
> warning messages are written below:
>
> 1) The file\Trnsys 17\Tess 
> Models\SampleCatalogData\AirCooledChiller\Samp_C.dat was called with a 
> first independent variable value below the range supplied in the data 
> file. Data is interpolated within the data file range but is not 
> extrapolated beyondthe range. Performance of the equipment modeled by 
> this unit may be incorrect.
>
> 2) The referenced UNIT\ (Type 607)\ has called the PSYCHROMETRICS 
> routine with a humidity ratio above the saturation humidity ratio for 
> the given dry bulb temperature. The air was assumed saturated at the 
> given dry bulb temperature and the humidity ratio set for this condition.
>
> For the chiller, parameter of rated capacity was changed and other 
> parameters remained as default values.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Zhuo Li
>
>
>
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