[TRNSYS-users] Cooling and solar heat gains

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Wed Jul 16 06:35:21 PDT 2014

Dear Marcello,

I just had a look into your model. There are actually two main reasons causing the deviation between your
manual calculation and the TRNSYS Simulation.

1.       You haven't set geosurf (beam radiation distribution factor) values, the shortwave radiation is then distributed area weighted

to the surfaces, and consequently also to the windows. Therefore a part of the solar radiation leave

the zone depending on the transmissivity of the window.

So if you set the geosurf value of the floor to one, all the short wave radiation will hit the floor.

2.       If you do so, there is still a large deviation because of the imperfect absorption of the radiation on

the floor. To solve this, set the absorption coefficients of the floor to 1 and apply a good insulation.

3.       There will be still a deviation of around 10 % caused by heat losses through the windows and walls.



Jochen Lam
TRNSYS Software Team

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Von: TRNSYS-users [mailto:trnsys-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] Im Auftrag von marcello.caciolo at cofelyaxima-gdfsuez.com
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 15:06
An: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
Betreff: [TRNSYS-users] TR: Cooling and solar heat gains

Dear TRNSYS users,

I post again this message, hoping that someone can give a quick look to our sample project and give us some ideas on the reasons we don't have the results we expected :

We have a little problem with type 56. I send you enclosed a sample project illustrating our problem.

In type 56, we have one zone with 4 external glazed surfaces, with 4 orientations (namely ENE, 124 m2, SSE, 48m2, OSO, 124 m2 and Horizontal, 198 m2), and a boundary surface, with identical temperature.

There are no internal loads. External radiation is fixed to 1000 kJ/hm2 on ENE, 2000 kJ/hm2 on SSE, 600 kJ/hm2 on OSO and 800 kJ/hm2 on horizontal, and assumed totally direct (ITotal = IBeam), with a zero incident angle for each orientation (this is no realistic, but we wanted to avoid problems with angle-dependant transmission coefficient).

A cooling type is added to the building, in order to maintain ambient temperature to 26°C.

All the windows have a SHGC of 0.387, for 0° incident radiation, calculated by LBNL Window, and a ratio of frame of 10 %.

We expected cooling load, for static conditions, to be in the order of the result of following equation :

( IT_ENE*124 + IT_SSE*48 + IT_OSO*124 + RadTotHor*198  )* 0.387 * 0.9
! 124 = WinSurf ENE, 48 = WinSurf SSE, 124 = WinSurf OSO, 198 = WinSurf Hor
! 0.387 = Win SHGC
! 0.9 = 1-ratioFrame

(TotalRad equation)

However, TRNSYS give us almost half of this load (P froid in this picture, VS AppSolaires calculated by TotalRad equation).

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Do you have any idea of the reason our hand calculation is so far from TRNSYS calculation?

Thank you for your help !

Best regards,
Marcello Caciolo
Responsable Outils et Méthodes d'Analyse Energétique
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