[TRNSYS-users] after TRNFlow update, run to visual studio

王洋 wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 18 05:13:54 PST 2011


Dear all,

All the program is OK before I update, but after I update the TRNFlow,  I
want to RUN or right-click TYPE 56 and select EDIT Building, it appears at
once Visual Studio Debugger Window! I cann't RUN the .tpf file and Edit
building. But I can directly open the same .bui file from TRNBuild not from
Simulation Studio and right-click TYPE 56 and select Edit Building.

I think the connection between Simualtion Studio and TRNBuild is having
problem after update TRNFLow.

The bug shows Unbahandelte win32- Ausnahme in TRNBuild.exe(1564)
Mögliche Debugger:
Neue Instanz von Visual Studio 2005

  PLEASE tell me how to solve with it?

  I'm extremely worried!

  Many thanks!

 Br.

wang



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> From: 王洋 <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>
> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:26:34 +0100
> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] after TRNFlow update, run to visual studio?
> Dear all,
>
>    Please tell me: All the program is OK, but after I update the TRNFlow,
> I want to RUN or EDIT Building, it appears at once Visual Studio Debugger
> Window! I cann't RUN the .tpf file and Edit building.
>
>   PLEASE tell me how to solve with it?
>
>   I'm extremely worried!
>
>   Many thanks!
>
>  Br.
>
> wang
>
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>>   1. Heating?radiative part & ideal heating (??)
>>
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>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: 王洋 <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>
>> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:49:57 +0100
>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Heating:radiative part & ideal heating
>> Dear all,
>>
>>      1.  Please tell me what's meaning of RADIATIVE PART in HEATING
>> option? If the heating are Radiator and Convector, how to define this
>> RADIATIVE PART? What's percent to set? 0 or other?
>>
>>     2.  I defined a set point indoor temperature:20C from 8 am to 6 pm,
>> other time is 18 C in the test room . I used the HEATING to realize it, but
>> the heating is ideal heating. Please tell me what's the meaning of ideal
>> heating?
>>
>>   The result is the indoor temperature can get to the set point at once
>> and no time delay, so I cann't get the THERMAL TIME CONSTANT of the test
>> room. But my professor let me use TRNSYS to verify the result of using
>> TRNSYS to calculate the time constant and actual measurement test room
>> result of time constant. Please tell me how to get the thermal time constant
>> of the test room using TRNSYS? Or how to explain to my professor the ideal
>> heating?
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> br.
>>
>> wang
>>
>>
>> 2011/2/17 王洋 <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>
>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>      1.  Please tell me what's meaning of RADIATIVE PART in HEATING
>>> option? If the heating are Radiator and Convector, how to define this
>>> RADIATIVE PART? What's percent to set? 0 or other?
>>>
>>>     2.  I defined a set point indoor temperature:20C from 8 am to 6 pm,
>>> other time is 18 C in the test room . I used the HEATING to realize it, but
>>> the heating is ideal heating. Please tell me what's the meaning of ideal
>>> heating?
>>>
>>>   The result is the indoor temperature can get to the set point at once
>>> and no time delay, so I cann't get the THERMAL TIME CONSTANT of the test
>>> room. But my professor let me use TRNSYS to verify the result of using
>>> TRNSYS to calculate the time constant and actual measurement test room
>>> result of time constant. Please tell me how to get the thermal time constant
>>> of the test room using TRNSYS? Or how to explain to my professor the ideal
>>> heating?
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>>
>>> br.
>>>
>>> wang
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>   1. Re: PV Powered electrical heat pump (David BRADLEY)
>>>>   2. Re: length and witdh from the collector area (David BRADLEY)
>>>>   3. Re: type2b Controller (David BRADLEY)
>>>>   4. WALL TRANSFERFUNCTION CALCULATIONS &TIMEBASE (??)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>>>> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
>>>> To: gzlv <gzlv at sjtu.edu.cn>
>>>> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:11:13 -0600
>>>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] PV Powered electrical heat pump
>>>> Guangzhao,
>>>>   You will find various heat pump models (air-to-air, water-to-air,
>>>> air-to-water, and water-to-water) in the TESS HVAC Library. I would
>>>> recommend running your Type56 building in temperature level control instead
>>>> of letting it calculate cooling load. You'll need a thermostat model to turn
>>>> on and off the heat pump but then your heat pump model will report the
>>>> required power, which you can match up to your PV array output. You may need
>>>> some battery storage in case your cooling load does not match up perfectly
>>>> with the electricity supplied by your PV.
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>  David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/16/2011 01:57, gzlv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, I am trying to model a PV powered air conditioning system. I want
>>>> to know which type can be treated as an electrical heat pump that can
>>>> get cooling load and heating load from type 56. I want to conect it with
>>>> type 48.
>>>>
>>>> 2011-02-16
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>  Guangzhao Lv
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> ***************************
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>>>> Principal
>>>> Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
>>>> 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
>>>> Madison, WI  53703 USA
>>>>
>>>> P:+1.608.274.2577
>>>> F:+1.608.278.1475d.bradley at tess-inc.com
>>>> http://www.tess-inc.comhttp://www.trnsys.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>>>> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
>>>> To: "Sancho,Fernando" <fsancho at sonnenwaermeag.de>
>>>> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:38:24 -0600
>>>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] length and witdh from the collector area
>>>> Fernando,
>>>>   I think you'd be best off trying different combinations of modules in
>>>> series and in parallel. I do not know of any flat-plate collector models
>>>> that allow you to specify the panel length. Most of them rely on a quadratic
>>>> efficiency curve that is typically experimentally determined for a given
>>>> collector configuration. They do not do first-principals computations of the
>>>> collector fin efficiency equations. If you are looking for a reference that
>>>> will give you information on how to compute such things, I would recommend
>>>> "Solar Engineering of Thermal Processes"
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/16/2011 04:48, Sancho,Fernando wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hello TRNSYS-users,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m making simulations with plastic collector. Many from the commercial
>>>> models can be resized, so it’s almost free how to configurate the collector
>>>> area. I would like to find  an optimal distribution, dependent of course on
>>>> Radiation, temperatures etc…, basically how long and width for a minimum
>>>> output temperature of  the fluid. Or just what is the best for a certain
>>>> situation 10m*30m or 30m*10m ?.
>>>>
>>>> I ´ve already done my calculations with Excel and know that longer means
>>>> higher output temperature but lower energy gain… but with trnsys  it’s
>>>> difficult to face the problem ,
>>>>
>>>> do I take a standard unit and probe around different series und parallel
>>>> distributions L ?
>>>>
>>>> Do type 553 and 559 in TESS TRn17 do that; difference width and length
>>>> (I didn’t find it in the general pdf… and have just occasionally access to
>>>> TRNSYS17)?
>>>>
>>>> Any advice or experience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So Thanks a lot!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>>>>
>>>> Fernando Sancho Márquez
>>>>
>>>> PHÖNIX SonnenWärme AG
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> Principal
>>>> Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
>>>> 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
>>>> Madison, WI  53703 USA
>>>>
>>>> P:+1.608.274.2577
>>>> F:+1.608.278.1475d.bradley at tess-inc.com
>>>> http://www.tess-inc.comhttp://www.trnsys.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>>>> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
>>>> To: Hanani Abd Wahab <ha65 at waikato.ac.nz>
>>>> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:06:48 -0600
>>>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type2b Controller
>>>> Hanani,
>>>> I know nothing about programming in Simulink but you can probably take a
>>>> look at the source code for type2 (c:\TrnsysXX\SourceCode\Types\Type2.for)
>>>> using a text editor and understand better how it makes use of the inputs.
>>>> regards,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/15/2011 21:55, Hanani Abd Wahab wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to build the same type2b controller in Simulink. What I
>>>>> understand is I can create using simple relay control in Simulink
>>>>> model.In relay model, I just set switch on point 10, switch off point
>>>>> 2 (as same as dead band  value in TRNSYS). 'Th' I set as input to
>>>>> relay. But how about Tl and Tin? In type2b there is 6 inputs consist
>>>>> of Th,Tl,Tin, Input control function , Upper dT dan Lower dT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really appreciate any help or idea...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks&  Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ***************************
>>>> David BRADLEY
>>>> Principal
>>>> Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
>>>> 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
>>>> Madison, WI  53703 USA
>>>>
>>>> P:+1.608.274.2577
>>>> F:+1.608.278.1475
>>>> d.bradley at tess-inc.com
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tess-inc.com
>>>> http://www.trnsys.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>>>> From: 王洋 <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>>>> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:21:44 +0100
>>>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] WALL TRANSFERFUNCTION CALCULATIONS &TIMEBASE
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I met this error:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>           ***** WALL TRANSFERFUNCTION CALCULATIONS *****
>>>>
>>>>  UNABLE TO FIND A ROOT AFTER INDICATION THAT A ROOT EXISTED
>>>>
>>>>  CHECK THE WALL TYPE AFTER THE LAST CALCULATED WALL
>>>>  OFTEN THE WALL CAPACITY IS TO SMALL TO CALCULATE A TRANSFER FUNCTION !
>>>>
>>>>  CHECK ALSO YOUR TIMEBASE !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Attached is INF file, Please check it!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And I make the timebase larger, but it still doesn't work.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Br.
>>>>
>>>> wang
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. length and witdh from the collector area (Sancho,Fernando)
>>>>>   2. Re: g95 compiler (Francois Badinier)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>>>>> From: "Sancho,Fernando" <fsancho at sonnenwaermeag.de>
>>>>> To: <trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:48:55 +0100
>>>>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] length and witdh from the collector area
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello TRNSYS-users,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m making simulations with plastic collector. Many from the commercial
>>>>> models can be resized, so it’s almost free how to configurate the collector
>>>>> area. I would like to find  an optimal distribution, dependent of course on
>>>>> Radiation, temperatures etc…, basically how long and width for a minimum
>>>>> output temperature of  the fluid. Or just what is the best for a certain
>>>>> situation 10m*30m or 30m*10m ?.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ´ve already done my calculations with Excel and know that longer
>>>>> means higher output temperature but lower energy gain… but with trnsys  it’s
>>>>> difficult to face the problem ,
>>>>>
>>>>> do I take a standard unit and probe around different series und
>>>>> parallel distributions L ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do type 553 and 559 in TESS TRn17 do that; difference width and length
>>>>> (I didn’t find it in the general pdf… and have just occasionally access to
>>>>> TRNSYS17)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advice or experience?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So Thanks a lot!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>>>>>
>>>>> Fernando Sancho Márquez
>>>>>
>>>>> PHÖNIX SonnenWärme AG
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________
>>>>> PHÖNIX Sonnenwärme AG
>>>>> Ostendstr. 1
>>>>>
>>>>> D-12459 Berlin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>>>>> From: "Francois Badinier" <francois.badinier at icax.co.uk>
>>>>> To: <mabadie at univ-lr.fr>, <trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:02:13 -0000
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] g95 compiler
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
>>>>> If you still want to use g95, an alternative is to define T0, Tfinal
>>>>> and
>>>>> Timestep as parameters in our new component. The only drawback is that
>>>>> you
>>>>> have to be careful to change those values whenever you change them in
>>>>> the
>>>>> simulation studio.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> François Badinier
>>>>> Development Engineer
>>>>> ICAX Ltd
>>>>> 1 Berry Street
>>>>> London EC1M 5PS
>>>>> francois.badinier at icax.co.uk
>>>>> www.icax.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: trnsys-users-bounces at cae.wisc.edu
>>>>> [mailto:trnsys-users-bounces at cae.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of
>>>>> mabadie at univ-lr.fr
>>>>> Sent: 14 February 2011 11:57
>>>>> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] g95 compiler
>>>>>
>>>>> Danny and David,
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually successfully used the G95 compiler with TRNSYS 16 to create
>>>>> new components. However, i was not able to properly used TRNSYS
>>>>> variables (such as getSimulationTime()) in my TYPES. The only solution
>>>>> i found was to stop using this compiler and buying Intel Fortran v11.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you will find a way to fix that problem as it is nice to have
>>>>> the choice of a free/light fortran compiler.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Marc O. Abadie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> > Danny,
>>>>> >   getSimulationTime is a function that is defined in the data module
>>>>> > called "TrnsysFunctions." When compiling an external Type in either
>>>>> > the Compaq or the Intel compilers, I have to make sure that the
>>>>> > compiler is set to look for data modules (sometimes called MOD
>>>>> > files) in the ..\Trnsys17\Compilers\IVF111\Debug\ directory or else
>>>>> > copy them to some other place where they can be found by the
>>>>> > compiler. My understanding is that this tells the compiler "don't
>>>>> > worry, even though I haven't defined this function called
>>>>> > getSimulationTime() in my external Type242.dll, you'll find that
>>>>> > function during run-time because my dll will be called by a dll in
>>>>> > which the function is defined"
>>>>> >
>>>>> >   I don't know how the G95 compiler handles settings for where to
>>>>> > look for *.mod files but this is not specific to Trnsys17, there
>>>>> > were a number of TrnsysFunctions called by Types in Trnsys16 as
>>>>> > well. We have just expanded their use in Trnsys17.
>>>>> > best,
>>>>> >  David
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 2/11/2011 11:12, Danny Jonas wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear TRNSYS users,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I have use the directions in the document, but after starting the
>>>>> >> batch file to compile my own type I've received the following
>>>>> >> message:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "In file Type201.for:72
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                Time=getSimulationTime<>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Error: Function 'getsimulationtime' at <1> has no implicit type"
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> could the error be associated with using TRNSYS17?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Using the example (type242), I can build the type242.dll.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm now trying to use C++, till now it works fine. But I still
>>>>> >> don't understand why it doesn't work with the batch file as fortran
>>>>> >> code....
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks a lot,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best Regards,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Danny
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Von: Daniel Bergey [mailto:daniel at buildingscience.com]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2011 21:14
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> An: Danny Jonas
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Betreff: Re: [TRNSYS-users] g95 compiler
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I have successfully compiled a couple of components using
>>>>> >> directions in the attached document.  I don't recall the URL whence
>>>>> >> I downloaded it originally.  Sorry about the doc format; let me
>>>>> >> know if I should convert it.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Daniel
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 01:33:49PM +0100, Danny Jonas wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    Dear TRNSYS users,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    I want to use the free g95 compiler to create my own components
>>>>> >>> in TRNSYS.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    I have found the following message in the TRNSYS-users Archives:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> [1]
>>>>> http://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/pipermail/trnsys-users/2008/003957.html
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    with the following link:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    [2]http://software.cstb.fr/main/articles.asp?langue=us
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    But this page no longer exists.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    Can someone send a link where I can download this example?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    Thanks in advance,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    Danny
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> References
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    Visible links
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    1.
>>>>> http://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/pipermail/trnsys-users/2008/003957.html
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>    2. http://software.cstb.fr/main/articles.asp?langue=us
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > ***************************
>>>>> > David BRADLEY
>>>>> > Principal
>>>>> > Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
>>>>> > 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
>>>>> > Madison, WI  53703 USA
>>>>> >
>>>>> > P:+1.608.274.2577
>>>>> > F:+1.608.278.1475
>>>>> > d.bradley at tess-inc.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://www.tess-inc.com
>>>>> > http://www.trnsys.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
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