[TRNSYS-users] How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17

[王洋]

Dear all,


How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17? Please tell
me the detailed steps!

Thanks in advance!

br.

wang

2011/4/14 <trnsys-users-request at cae.wisc.edu>

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>   1. Re: time delay by means of type 93 (input value   recall)
>      (David BRADLEY)
>   2. Re: type 860 PCM Storage Units (David BRADLEY)
>   3. Re: Ground Convection coefficient (David BRADLEY)
>   4. Re: TRNSYS3D plugin question (Marion Hiller)
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> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
> To: Stefan Wachter <wachter at mail.hs-ulm.de>
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:44:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] time delay by means of type 93 (input value
> recall)
>  Stefan,
>   Type93 simply holds onto a value for as many time steps as you ask it to,
> then "releases" the value. The control ought to work the same regardless of
> the system size. I am not sure what you mean by "continuous" controllers. If
> you mean that there are some controllers that continuously modify a flow
> rate in order to maintain an outlet temperature then a simple time delay
> might cause some problems. You might look at some of the controllers
> available in the TESS Controllers Library (for Trnsys17) as there are a
> number of devices in there with minimum run times and start-delays.
> Best,
>  David
>
>
> On 4/8/2011 04:05, Stefan Wachter wrote:
>
>  Hello everybody,
>
> I am new at trnsys-users.
> Currently I`m modeling an already existing solar heating system (for hot
> water).
> In this system the loading pump is activated by a time delay of 4 minutes
> (after solar pump is launched).
> I tried to model this as follows:
>
> - simulation time step: 2 minutes
> - storage of the control signal of the solar pump over the last two time
> steps by means of type 93 (input value recall)
> - if the control signal of the solar pump is "1" in the stored two time
> steps, then the loading pump is launched.
>
> It works (tried by a simple example deck) but does it also works in
> context with a quite big deck (120 m² apertur area, 2 continuous
> controllers)?
> I`m concerned about that the small time step of 2 minutes could cause
> problems (for example oscillations of the controllers).
> Could this work or have someone of you another idea how i can solve this
> problem?
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Best regards.
>
> Stefan Wachter
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> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
> To: Filippo Busato <busato at gest.unipd.it>
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:11:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type 860 PCM Storage Units
>  Filippo,
>  I am not familiar with Type860. However, there is a PCM wall material
> component available in the user-donated Type library (TRNLib).
>
> http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm
>
> best,
>  David
>
>
> On 4/13/2011 07:52, Filippo Busato wrote:
>
>  Hi everybody,
>
>                I found in the report “Simulation Models of PCM storage
> units” (IEA Report C5 Subtask C) that a Type 860 has been developed by the
> Institute HEIG-VD in Yverdon-les-Bains Switzerland, by Jacques Bony and
> Stephane Citherlet.
>
>
>
> I would like to know if that type is distributed and whom could I get/buy
> that from.
>
>
>
> Can anyone help?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Filippo Busato
>
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> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
> To: pseudomino at gmx.com
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:16:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Ground Convection coefficient
>  As noted in TRNBuild (where you set the back side convection coefficient),
> a value smaller than 0.001 is used to indicate direct contact between a
> BOUNDARY wall and a temperature. A large value (such as 999) is used with
> other wall categories (ADJACENT, EXTERNAL, etc.) to indicate good thermal
> contact.
> Best,
>  David
>
>
> On 4/13/2011 10:30, pseudomino at gmx.com wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Usually, when using the assistant to create a multizone building, the
> convection coefficient between the soil and the floor is set to 999 to
> reproduce the absence of thermal resistance.
>
> But when I create a file using the Trnsys3D import from Sketchup, this same
> coefficient is set by default to 0,001.
> Why is that ?
>
> Please help me understand
>
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> From: "Marion Hiller" <hiller at transsolar.com>
> To: trnsys-users <trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:14:43 +0200
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question
>
>  Dear Lampros,
>
>
>
>
>
> When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17 shading
> objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I believe that it
> automatically created one object per surface, it is important to know
>
> 1.       Is this normal?
>
> => Yes this is normal. Thr pluginallows you to draw several shading
> surfaces into one group because it is more convienent than creating a group
> for each surface.
>
> 2.       Does this affect my calculations?
> => Yes, this is the required input and therefore it is working fine J
>
> 3.       Can I do something to make it behave properly?
> => No, this is the proper behavour
>
> 4.       Why does outliner window of my skp,  even though it produces
> errors, shows the shading objects properly?
> => because it’s not an error.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Marion
>
>
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>
> *Von:* Lampros Karalis [mailto:lkaralis at metal.ntua.gr]
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. April 2011 15:23
> *An:* trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
> *Cc:* lkaralis at gmail.com
> *Betreff:* [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I am working with the latest version of the TRNSYS 3d plugin on windows XP
> and using the trnsys 17.00019 version of the simulation Studio.
>
>
>
> I already have sketched my building and defined the zones in it, as
> described on the manual.
>
> The most common problems I have met so far have to do with some error
> messages when I try to use the skp file. However I read Mr. ‘s Duffy note
> that we should only use the idf file, and therefore I did not worry.
>
>
>
> My main problem begun when I started drawing the shadow objects that affect
> my building.  I did defined the objects as noted on the tutorial (version
> June 2010) and on the Outliner Window I could see two Shading Object groups,
> (one for the nearby building that affect mine and one for a second
> construction that is attached to my building) Please see attached skp file.
>
>
>
> When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17 shading
> objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I believe that it
> automatically created one object per surface, it is important to know
>
> 5.       Is this normal?
>
> 6.       Does this affect my calculations?
>
> 7.       Can I do something to make it behave properly?
>
> 8.       Why does outliner window of my skp,  even though it produces
> errors, shows the shading objects properly?
>
>
>
> Any help would be most appreciated, specially on questions #1, #2
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Lampros Karalis
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