[TRNSYS-users] R How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17
王洋
wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 01:18:27 PDT 2011
Dear all,
How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17? Please tell
me the detailed steps!
Thanks in advance!
br.
wang
2011/4/14 王洋 <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>
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>> 1. Re: time delay by means of type 93 (input value recall)
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>> 2. Re: type 860 PCM Storage Units (David BRADLEY)
>> 3. Re: Ground Convection coefficient (David BRADLEY)
>> 4. Re: TRNSYS3D plugin question (Marion Hiller)
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>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
>> To: Stefan Wachter <wachter at mail.hs-ulm.de>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:44:56 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] time delay by means of type 93 (input value
>> recall)
>> Stefan,
>> Type93 simply holds onto a value for as many time steps as you ask it
>> to, then "releases" the value. The control ought to work the same regardless
>> of the system size. I am not sure what you mean by "continuous" controllers.
>> If you mean that there are some controllers that continuously modify a flow
>> rate in order to maintain an outlet temperature then a simple time delay
>> might cause some problems. You might look at some of the controllers
>> available in the TESS Controllers Library (for Trnsys17) as there are a
>> number of devices in there with minimum run times and start-delays.
>> Best,
>> David
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>>
>> On 4/8/2011 04:05, Stefan Wachter wrote:
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>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> I am new at trnsys-users.
>> Currently I`m modeling an already existing solar heating system (for hot
>> water).
>> In this system the loading pump is activated by a time delay of 4 minutes
>> (after solar pump is launched).
>> I tried to model this as follows:
>>
>> - simulation time step: 2 minutes
>> - storage of the control signal of the solar pump over the last two time
>> steps by means of type 93 (input value recall)
>> - if the control signal of the solar pump is "1" in the stored two time
>> steps, then the loading pump is launched.
>>
>> It works (tried by a simple example deck) but does it also works in
>> context with a quite big deck (120 m² apertur area, 2 continuous
>> controllers)?
>> I`m concerned about that the small time step of 2 minutes could cause
>> problems (for example oscillations of the controllers).
>> Could this work or have someone of you another idea how i can solve this
>> problem?
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>> Thanks a lot.
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Stefan Wachter
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>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
>> To: Filippo Busato <busato at gest.unipd.it>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:11:52 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type 860 PCM Storage Units
>> Filippo,
>> I am not familiar with Type860. However, there is a PCM wall material
>> component available in the user-donated Type library (TRNLib).
>>
>> http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm
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>> best,
>> David
>>
>>
>> On 4/13/2011 07:52, Filippo Busato wrote:
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>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I found in the report “Simulation Models of PCM storage
>> units” (IEA Report C5 Subtask C) that a Type 860 has been developed by the
>> Institute HEIG-VD in Yverdon-les-Bains Switzerland, by Jacques Bony and
>> Stephane Citherlet.
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>>
>> I would like to know if that type is distributed and whom could I get/buy
>> that from.
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>> Can anyone help?
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>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Filippo Busato
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>> David BRADLEY
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>> Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
>> 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
>> Madison, WI 53703 USA
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>> P:+1.608.274.2577
>> F:+1.608.278.1475d.bradley at tess-inc.com
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>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
>> To: pseudomino at gmx.com
>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:16:16 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Ground Convection coefficient
>> As noted in TRNBuild (where you set the back side convection
>> coefficient), a value smaller than 0.001 is used to indicate direct contact
>> between a BOUNDARY wall and a temperature. A large value (such as 999) is
>> used with other wall categories (ADJACENT, EXTERNAL, etc.) to indicate good
>> thermal contact.
>> Best,
>> David
>>
>>
>> On 4/13/2011 10:30, pseudomino at gmx.com wrote:
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>> Hello,
>>
>> Usually, when using the assistant to create a multizone building, the
>> convection coefficient between the soil and the floor is set to 999 to
>> reproduce the absence of thermal resistance.
>>
>> But when I create a file using the Trnsys3D import from Sketchup, this
>> same coefficient is set by default to 0,001.
>> Why is that ?
>>
>> Please help me understand
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>> 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
>> Madison, WI 53703 USA
>>
>> P:+1.608.274.2577
>> F:+1.608.278.1475d.bradley at tess-inc.com
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>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: "Marion Hiller" <hiller at transsolar.com>
>> To: trnsys-users <trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>
>> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:14:43 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question
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>> Dear Lampros,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17 shading
>> objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I believe that it
>> automatically created one object per surface, it is important to know
>>
>> 1. Is this normal?
>>
>> => Yes this is normal. Thr pluginallows you to draw several shading
>> surfaces into one group because it is more convienent than creating a group
>> for each surface.
>>
>> 2. Does this affect my calculations?
>> => Yes, this is the required input and therefore it is working fine J
>>
>> 3. Can I do something to make it behave properly?
>> => No, this is the proper behavour
>>
>> 4. Why does outliner window of my skp, even though it produces
>> errors, shows the shading objects properly?
>> => because it’s not an error.
>>
>>
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>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Marion
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>> *Von:* Lampros Karalis [mailto:lkaralis at metal.ntua.gr]
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. April 2011 15:23
>> *An:* trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> *Cc:* lkaralis at gmail.com
>> *Betreff:* [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am working with the latest version of the TRNSYS 3d plugin on windows XP
>> and using the trnsys 17.00019 version of the simulation Studio.
>>
>>
>>
>> I already have sketched my building and defined the zones in it, as
>> described on the manual.
>>
>> The most common problems I have met so far have to do with some error
>> messages when I try to use the skp file. However I read Mr. ‘s Duffy note
>> that we should only use the idf file, and therefore I did not worry.
>>
>>
>>
>> My main problem begun when I started drawing the shadow objects that
>> affect my building. I did defined the objects as noted on the tutorial
>> (version June 2010) and on the Outliner Window I could see two Shading
>> Object groups, (one for the nearby building that affect mine and one for a
>> second construction that is attached to my building) Please see attached skp
>> file.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17 shading
>> objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I believe that it
>> automatically created one object per surface, it is important to know
>>
>> 5. Is this normal?
>>
>> 6. Does this affect my calculations?
>>
>> 7. Can I do something to make it behave properly?
>>
>> 8. Why does outliner window of my skp, even though it produces
>> errors, shows the shading objects properly?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help would be most appreciated, specially on questions #1, #2
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Lampros Karalis
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