[Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt
Richard Sapwell
richardmsapwell at gmail.com
Wed Dec 10 06:09:33 PST 2025
*Hi Chris,*
You’ve raised an important—and frankly unavoidable—question for anyone
working in building simulation, NatHERS, LEED, or broader performance
modelling:
*If an LLM can rapidly generate the appearance of a complete modelling
package, what happens to the value of the modeller?*
As someone who actively uses LLMs (ChatGPT) to support the production of
reports—particularly complex Performance Solutions and NatHERS
documentation—I see both the opportunity *and* the real risk.
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*The Risk: “Autocorrect on Steroids” Can Mimic Output Without Doing the
Work*
You’re right: LLMs can now generate
- unmet load tables,
- calibration summaries,
- error logs,
- and even plausible-looking LEED or NCC/NatHERS documentation,
*all without any underlying simulation ever being run.*
This creates two exposures:
*1. Reviewers may not detect fabricated modelling artefacts*
Even experienced certifiers can struggle to identify fabricated tables if
they are numerically plausible.
NCC and NatHERS documentation is especially vulnerable because reports
often follow rigid templates.
*2. The modelling profession risks being judged by its paperwork, not its
competence*
If the visible output (the report) becomes easily faked, then the *perceived
value* of modelling may degrade—even though the true value is in the
physics, domain reasoning, and regulatory interpretation behind the scenes.
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*So what is the value a competent modeller still provides?*
Fundamentally:
*1. Understanding the physics and constraints*
LLMs can *describe* thermal bridging, infiltration limits, control logic,
shading geometry—but they cannot validate that a proposed model follows the
laws of thermodynamics or matches local climate files, geometry, or
construction systems.
*2. Regulatory interpretation and compliance judgement*
“EE-04 weighted existing vs proposed floorspace” or “NCC 2019 Amdt.1 vs NCC
2022 equivalence under Building Surveyor discretion” requires *professional
reasoning*, not pattern-matching.
*3. Ethical accountability*
A human must sign the report, take responsibility for accuracy, and engage
with BS, council, or GBCI when queries arise.
LLMs cannot accept liability.
*4. Integration with design reality*
Your point about tying design modelling to *actual operation*
(post-occupancy calibration) is spot on. This is something only competent
practitioners can deliver.
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*How do we improve—and protect—the value of our work?*
*1. Strengthen the link between models and real buildings*
Your proposal is exactly where the profession needs to move:
- Require calibration against measured operational data
- Use design models to support commissioning and tuning
- Close the loop between predicted and actual performance
This pushes our value upstream and downstream—far beyond simply generating
documentation.
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*2. Escrow the model input files*
I strongly support this.
For LEED, NatHERS, NCC performance solutions, mechanical simulations, etc.,
requiring:
- the native model files,
- all geometry and input assumptions,
- weather files,
- software versions,
*to be lodged with a trusted authority (GBCI, local regulator, building
surveyor, etc.)*
would limit the risk of “paper-only” submissions.
Reports must correspond to verifiable inputs.
This is analogous to the way:
- structural engineers submit their calculation sets,
- energy auditors submit calibration data,
- certifiers maintain audit logs.
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*3. Accreditation that requires evidence of actual modelling competence*
This could be NatHERS, CIBSE, ASHRAE, or emerging Australian equivalents.
An LLM can write a report.
It cannot apply ASHRAE 140, NCC V2.6.2.2, or interpret ambiguous DTS
pathway conflicts.
A competency-based accreditation system reinforces the value of the
practitioner, not the document.
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*4. Transparency in documentation*
Professionals should adopt a standard such as:
- Model version
- Software version
- Data sources
- Assumptions
- Calibration status
- QA/QC logs
- Sensitivity tests
This is the kind of information an LLM *cannot fake accurately*—without the
real model behind it.
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*Controversial? Maybe. Necessary? Yes.*
Your proposals won’t just protect the profession; they will improve the
credibility of modelling outcomes and reduce the temptation for individuals
(or clients) to push for “report-only” shortcuts.
The uncomfortable truth is:
*LLMs threaten the commoditised paperwork side of our profession, but they
strengthen the value of genuine expertise and verifiable modelling.*
If we move towards transparent inputs, post-occupancy calibration, and
audited modelling files, then the future modeller becomes:
- a systems thinker,
- a regulatory interpreter,
- a data integrator,
—not a “report generator.”
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*Thanks for raising this, Chris. This is exactly the kind of conversation
the industry needs to be having right now.*
Cheers,
Richard
(Building Designer & Energy Efficiency Assessor)
ecodesigns know the elements, work with them
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 at 00:40, Chris Yates via Bldg-sim <
bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:
> Hi there,
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> Just a philosophical one; maybe even an existential one 😐
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> Given LLMs’ “autocorrect on steroids” abilities, what risk do we see
> ourselves exposed to as modelling professionals?
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> Let’s give an example…
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> - A full LEED application including reports, unmet load tables,
> “error” reports.
> - Not based on modelling – all reports and outputs generated with LLMs.
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> I think it would be relatively easy to do this, and present something that
> would stand up to review.
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> I think this poses the following questions:
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> 1. If our main value offering can be replaced with auto-complete, what
> is the value of what we’re doing, anyway?
> 2. How can we improve the value?
> 3. How can we protect that value?
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> I’d like to propose some solutions:
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> - Tie Design stage models into the Operation of the building –
> calibrate
> - Rather than just submitting reports, place model input files into
> *escrow* with GBCI (or their local equivalent)
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> Controversial?
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> Cheers
>
> Chris
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