[Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt
David S Eldridge
deldridge at grummanbutkus.com
Wed Dec 10 06:19:06 PST 2025
It’s been a decade or more but someone did do this, they went through the trouble to synthesize a project and push it through LEED certification and it made it. It would certainly be a lot easier to do this now with the ability to automatically create some of the documents.
I’m not too worried about totally false projects, but the system could be gamed for individual credits.
That’s one reason I like Green Globes as there is either a virtual or in-person site visit to verify the property. At the macro level there wouldn’t ever be a completely made up facility, but at the individual criteria level there is some review of the scope with a physical/virtual verification.
David
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From: Bldg-sim <bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org> On Behalf Of Chris Yates via Bldg-sim
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2025 7:35 AM
To: bldg-sim at onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt
Hi there,
Just a philosophical one; maybe even an existential one 😐
Given LLMs’ “autocorrect on steroids” abilities, what risk do we see ourselves exposed to as modelling professionals?
Let’s give an example…
* A full LEED application including reports, unmet load tables, “error” reports.
* Not based on modelling – all reports and outputs generated with LLMs.
I think it would be relatively easy to do this, and present something that would stand up to review.
I think this poses the following questions:
1. If our main value offering can be replaced with auto-complete, what is the value of what we’re doing, anyway?
2. How can we improve the value?
3. How can we protect that value?
I’d like to propose some solutions:
* Tie Design stage models into the Operation of the building – calibrate
* Rather than just submitting reports, place model input files into escrow with GBCI (or their local equivalent)
Controversial?
Cheers
Chris
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