[UA] d20 UA

[Alex Lampros]

I don't agree at all.  I know a lot of gamers who play D20 and other 
systems.

D20 does well because its classic and has massive name recognition, can 
afford to do full color books while only charing $30 for hard cover 
(because of how many books it sells), and is a pretty good system for 
people who like "rules with crunchy bits."

I think D20 stuff has a slightly higher chance of getting people's 
attention and getting on store shelves.  I saw Call of Cthulhu d20 at 
Barnes and Noble.  I can't imagine seeing straight up CoC at Barnes and 
Noble.

Yours,

Alex


On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:30:14 -0800 (PST), Rev Kev <kelmore at rocketmail.com> 
wrote:

>> On a related note: How is Ascension or the Magdalene
>> selling? Is there even
>> a market for D20UA or are we just kidding ourself?
>
> I'm going to guess "pipe dream."  Here is my justification.
>  Tear it apart as you see fit.
>
> To be completely simplistic, I'll group gamers into two
> categories:
> A. Those who play D&D (d20) and nothing else.
> B. Those who are willing to examine other game systems.
>
> Clearly games outside the box, such as UA, Over the Edge,
> and In Nomine, appeal only to those in group B simply
> because their systems are not d20.  At the risk of sounding
> condescending, I'd have to wager that people in group A are
> in that group because they're not comfortable branching out
> too much.  Why explore something new when the status quo is
> just fine?  I already know that d20 roll equals a hit of AC
> xx.  I don't need to know that d% roll under xx means
> success.  Why change?
>
> Now, I hypothesize that people in Group A apply this to
> plots, as well.  Again, I threaten to be condescending when
> I say this, because this essentially says that people in
> Group A prefer the upfront plot of the warrior avenging his
> father's death or stealing a magical chalice from a dragon.
>  A plot where a cult wants you to steal a videotape while
> an adept wants it so he can try to bargain his dead wife
> from the grave may be outside what these people want.  Why
> throw in conspiracies, consequences, and negotiation when
> the dungeon delves and helping the mayor with a beholder
> problem are so much simpler to work with?  Why buck the
> system?
>
> That's my thought.  Now, that's not to say that people
> can't have d20 campaigns worthy of TNI.  Just that those
> people don't fall into category A.  They are willing to
> look outside the box but are okay with d20.
>
> Of course, my theory is shot to hell if you find many
> people who hate looking outside of d20 but are capable and
> willing to run campaigns of great complexity and intrigue.
>
>
> Kevin
> Who thinks d20 UA would be fine if we strip out levels,
> classes, Armor Class, Hit Points, and the current magic system.
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