[UA] So you're a Videomancer with some major, MAJOR mojo . . .

[Saul]

The Room of Cheesy Dialogue Rununciation would cover a good majority of TV
characters ;)

Come to think of it... most TV characters would have a hard time adjusting
to real world dialogue, lighting and so on. I imagine everything in the real
world would look drab and grey without proper lights and make-up. And think
how easy it would be to fool characters from Buffy/Farscape/whatever with
cheap masks and other special effects.

Saul

"Unknown Armies -- A Roleplaying Game of Power and Weird Hairiness"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Dohnim" <bibadoo at hotmail.com>
To: <ua at lists.unknown-armies.com>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [UA] So you're a Videomancer with some major, MAJOR mojo . . .


> >From: "Bruce MacMonkey McSpade" <greatbuthulhu at hotmail.com>
>
> >To expand slightly on this - I think that a FICTIONAL character that
> >manifests in the real world (the UA world) would certainly draw the
> >attention of those who are the keepers of the Rooms of Renunciation.  The
> >drawing of a god into the real world means what?  Who are (and what are)
> >the gods of the UA world?
>
> Well . . . I think some entities are being conflated here. It's definitely
> the case that in some cases, individual rooms might find that a given
> fictional character needed to do some renouncing. But not all fictional
> characters -- not even all superpowered fictional characters. If you
pulled
> in Bruce Banner/Incredible Hulk guy, what room would be screaming for him?
> He's already torn and conflicted, for pete's sake. There's no superstrong
> belief that he has that is going to call for renunciation. Supes, well,
> maybe. Buffy, again, *maybe* -- though she's a farily 3-dimensional
> character. Say you pull in Willow. She's a powerful witch . . . but
> precisely what belief does she have that requires massive Renunciation?
>
>
> >think that Bira is right on this point - these anomalies are immutable
(how
> >could the super dude be so fixated on Lois).  They do not change.  They
do
> >not evolve.
>
> Only if you've decided that ahead of time. Again, consider Jack Slater of
> Last Action Hero. He does change, he does evolve, once he finds out he's
> fictional. Buffy almost does the same when she has those dreams that she's
> in an insane asylum and her mother and father and doctors try to convince
> her that this whole Slayer thing is a delusion. If she almost cracked
there,
> imagine if she had to live in the Real World for a few months, straight.
>
> >A short life to them ( the clink of glasses is heard).
>
> Only if there's a "god" controlling all of the rooms such that different
> rooms would commence locking on to different fictional characters for
their
> removal.
>
> So this glass-clinking of yours only works with a certain set of
> assumptions:
>
> 1) Renunciation helps the problem in some way -- Renunciation drains the
> fictional characters of their superpowers. I don't know why this would be.
> 2) There is some commanding force behind all Rooms that would draw their
> attention to the fictional characters and put them on the top of the list.
> 3) Fictional characters cannot change their worldview. Also, they qualify
as
> having the level of obsession with their beliefs necessary to qualify for
> Renunciation.
>
> #1 is a stretch, IMO.
>
> #2 works if you assume that the Compte is behind the Rooms -- or that he
can
> direct them when need be. This, I'd buy -- I can't believe that the Compte
> would want fictional characters competing for a spot in the Clergy. (The
> Clergy are the beings closest to "gods" in the UA universe, and it's
pretty
> clear they don't run the Rooms.)
>
> #3 can be decided to be the case by the GM, but I find it kind of dull. I
> like the idea of fictional characters having to make lots of Madness
checks,
> of changing their worldview, of realizing that they are big fat phonies. I
> think that some of the coolness of this particular Videomancer plot idea
> would be drained if the fictional characters remained completely static.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
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