[UA] Old groups and power

Michael Dinowitz mdinowit at i-2000.com
Wed Apr 24 19:10:04 PDT 2002


> The key words are "vague", "maybe", "could", and "GM's call". 
> 
> Now, it could be argued that working old magick requires a specific
> mindset, one that a modern person, raised in a modern society, doesn't
> have. Then again, I just don't know. Just throwing some thoughts. Food
> for discussion.
Hm. Again, logically someone raised in a strict Amish community woult have access to the Amish tradition and someone raised in a Chasidish community would have access to the Jewish tradition. These communities both reject many of the modern world as being 'corruptive' (though Chasidim use more machines both avoid all forms of media).
 
> (And please, note I'm speaking strictly about UA, not about magic or
> occult traditions in the real world)
> 
> 
> > Is it that the stratosphere is now modern and rejects all older magics? So that means at some point all of those tribes we know nothing about in South America have just up and lost their magic even though they have no connection at all to the 'modern world'.
> 
> Oh, it's entirely possible that their magic works, true. But would it
> work for the average american or european citizen that suddenly decides
> to learn the secrets of the ancients? South american tribesmen live in a
> society where magic *is* a part of nature. Western society rejects magic
> as something natural (hence the whole obsession/paradox thing).
Then it *may* be possible for someone raised in a traditional household or who has taken upon thenselves vows and/or obligations to have access to that magic. Someone raised in an Irish Catholic (for example) household, who later goes to a Jesuit monistary to learn *should* be able to learn magic in that tradition.
 
> Also, it could be said that colonialism caused a shift in the
> Statosphere, so the dominance of the western powers and defeat of native
> styles of life (as the tribes disappear, pushed by governments and
> corporations, and the young generations assimilate western cultural
> icons) translates into mystical defeat, and native magic losing his
> oomph. Again, just an idea.
So the question come, what defined a shift in the stratosphere? It can't be something based on mass of people or belief as the 'modern' world is short in that in comparison to certain asian countries. it couldn't be linked to political ideologies as Communism (though it failed against Capitalism) had more adherents yet the magic that is used in UA is more of a Capitalist thing. It can't be tradition as many of the traditions are a few dozen years old. 
I know I'm over-analizing this but its my nature. :)
 
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