[UA] Old groups and power

[Mario Magallanes]

Michael Dinowitz escribió:
> 
> So your basically saying that there's some point in time that divides the 'old' magic from the new? So a modern Jew studying the lore of his tradition has no chance of doing what his teachers could do? There's a fault in logic there. If a modern person, no matter how modern is studying a tradition that has existed unbroken for centuries then why would it be expected that it wouldn't work for him anymore?

No. I'm saying that *could* be the case. Or not. Read again:

<< The thing is, UA is very vague about old school magic (which, IMHO,
is a good thing). Some schools won't work Other schools could work, but
no one is really interested in them, as there are ways to achieve the
same
effects. Or maybe old school magic only works for people who learned
when it worked (the guy in Postmodern Magic is almost two thousand years
old). Whatever. At the end, what works and what doesn't work seems to be
GM's call. >>

The key words are "vague", "maybe", "could", and "GM's call". 

Now, it could be argued that working old magick requires a specific
mindset, one that a modern person, raised in a modern society, doesn't
have. Then again, I just don't know. Just throwing some thoughts. Food
for discussion.

(And please, note I'm speaking strictly about UA, not about magic or
occult traditions in the real world)


> Is it that the stratosphere is now modern and rejects all older magics? So that means at some point all of those tribes we know nothing about in South America have just up and lost their magic even though they have no connection at all to the 'modern world'.

Oh, it's entirely possible that their magic works, true. But would it
work for the average american or european citizen that suddenly decides
to learn the secrets of the ancients? South american tribesmen live in a
society where magic *is* a part of nature. Western society rejects magic
as something natural (hence the whole obsession/paradox thing).

Also, it could be said that colonialism caused a shift in the
Statosphere, so the dominance of the western powers and defeat of native
styles of life (as the tribes disappear, pushed by governments and
corporations, and the young generations assimilate western cultural
icons) translates into mystical defeat, and native magic losing his
oomph. Again, just an idea.

Mario Magallanes
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