[UA] Cannibal Avatar?

[Timothy Ferguson]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ua-admin at lists.uchicago.edu [mailto:ua-admin at lists.uchicago.edu]On
> Behalf Of Gareth Hanrahan
> Sent: Friday, 1 June 2001 6:40 PM
> To: ua at lists.uchicago.edu
> Subject: Re: [UA] Cannibal Avatar?
>
>
> > >Hey, here's an almost completely unrelated question: should
> the Clown be
> > > an archetype all its own, or is it just another version of the Fool?
> >
> > I'd say just another take on the Fool, but then I don't think
> we needed the
> > Trickster as a distinct archetype (nor True King, for that matter).
>
> There seems to be quite a bit of space "up there" if it takes 333
> archetypes
> to fill a Clergy. Even if 200+ of the archetypes are ones like
> the WECHBY,
> which don't show up clearly in any "occult" literature and are hard to
> identify in the mass of humanity until they're pointed out to you....that
> still leaves around 100 "mystic" ones like the Trickster and the Fool. I
> think we've room for a bit of overlap.

I'd love them all to be non-literature...it seem the more we expand them,
the more we get away from the design concept of "not Foucault's Pendulum".
I mean, the Trickster is just so very...well...dull!

Have people -ever- embodied the Trickster?  I mean, it's always some
fox-God, or Loki, or Merlin or some other shapeshifting God-prophet freak.
Is there anyone who actually says "I'm going to help people along by making
them look like absolute asses, you better believe it bub!" and
actually -does- it?  I'm willing to give you Orson Welles for the Martians
landing, and maybe the guy who designed the Man Who Never Was, or the
Magician from the Second World War...but I'm not sure any of these people
really had ritual intent...

I like the WECHBY, it's a cool social comentary wrapped in a great game
concept.  The Hero isn't.  The Dark Stalker isn't.  You see my direction
here?  I think we are in danger of blanding the game out by brining in too
much Campbellian, Jungian and (damn, the guy who wrote "The Hero")ian
baggage.  I say NO NEW ARCHETYPES THAT DON'T CONTAIN A COOL TWIST!



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