[UA] What Do You Beleive?

Nick Wedig mrteapot at disinfo.net
Thu Jun 14 11:10:16 PDT 2001


>Some of the people who I've met that call themselves agnostic seem to take 
>the position that "disbelief is tenetative." They disbelieve in a wide 
>varety of stuff on the grounds that they haven't seen any proof, but say 
>they'll change their minds should proof come along.
>
>Something about this strikes me as terribly wishy-washy. Although I'm not an 
>atheist, I prefer 'em to wishy-washy agnosticism any day!

Complete and total skepticism (in the sense of being uncertain that truthful knowledge is possible, not in the sense of CSICOP) would require being skeptical of skepticism.

Of course, the belief that there could be proof means they're not really of this brand of skepticism.

Either skepticism is susceptible to its own skepticism, or it is an axiomatic system based on the belief "you can't know anything", which is just as dogmatic as any other axiomatic system.

>Somehow I don't think you can be an agnostic and be an adept, in UA. Adepts 
>*need* to have one of these axiomatic belief systems, or they couldn't 
>become so obsessed as to actually make magic work. It doesn't "feel" right 
>to me. An atheist adept, or an agnostic avatar, both feel just fine, though.

I think the idea of an atheistic adept is great.  It's quite possible to have stronger belief in the lack of God than most Christians have in the belief of God.  

The beliefs of avatars don't really matter, or at least not much.

Mr. Teapot
agnostic angel

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