[UA] Hitler the Archetype

[R. Menzi]

---- Chris Cooper insectking at yahoo.com wrote:
> If Hitler did Ascend, is he the archetype of the
> Warmonger? Who did he shove out? Attila the Hun? Was
> Stalin's paranoia and later bloodthirstiness an
> attempt to Ascend and kick out his metaphysical and
> actual archnemesis? What about Pol Pot?


     C'mon guys... cool twists are necessary, and a
nasty one would be best for this particular man. 
Please excuse the political incorrectness that
follows; I can think of no better tone to describe
Hitler's legacy in the IC.

     None of those figures was tied to the targeted
people the way Hitler was to the Jews.  They did
horrible things against people, as many did before, as
many would after.  Hitler's acts were against himself
and on a scale that can only be accomplished by proxy,
though the persecution and elimiation of his kind, of
whatever part of him made him hate mirrors and avoid
passing on his legacy to any children.  When the camps
were found, the air was charged.  When he finished his
long crusade and killed himself, he embodied
self-loathing so perfectly that he was taken into the
IC.

     Now, our world is is such that one's claim to the
right in an arguement or conflict can be supported and
promoted by one's status as the victim of some
horrible act that one was too weak, to powerless to
fight off.

     Case in point: the way guiltiness for enslavement
of Africans in America can be imposed on not only
those historical (and dead, so politically useless)
individuals who actually took part, but also upon
those people now breathing who resemble them.  The
guilt of the father, the neighbor, and the long dead
citizen of the nation are all placed squarely on the
head of anyone who looks like them, regardless of when
their line came over or what sort of persecution they
were running from.  Why is this?  The distinction of
right and guilt is not carried by wrong doers, but by
the victims.  Power and right is attained by defining
oneself as a victim, not through strength - what more
telling proof of the Self-Loather's influence can
there be.

    Likewise, the claim of the locals in British
Palastine were drowned out by that of Nazi
victimization.  What more proof of the Self-Loather
can there be but the post-war result of the genocide. 
The founding of Israel (and the basis for its claim to
Palastine) is not a reaction against the
Self-Loather's action, but a culmination of them.  In
all the Nietzschean texts where the Jews are blamed,
what are they but a people of weakness, of loss, of
resentment.  What better herald for Hitler's arrival
than the rise of the State of Weakness, Loss,
Resentment.





> All of these people mimicked Hitler in many ways.
All
> rose out of obscurity and grabbed hold of power with
> an iron fist. Perhaps the Archetype is the Savage
> Despot or the Cruel Saviour?

     Maybe they were avatars of something or other,
maybe not.  They were not working the same angle as
Hitler.  He was replaced by a once-plump fashion
designer who shifted the ideal of beauty and made
healthy into ugly, spreading her self-loathing upon
generations of women, until she starved/vomited
herself to death (weighing all of 53 lbs) sitting in
front of a mirror in which she still saw an
disgustingly obese, akward, funny looking girl.  In a
emaciated charactature of Hitler's own work, she
creted her own metaphorical Final Solution, trading
curves and tans for heroin tracks and cocane nose
jobs, moving the image of beauty from something
attainable to something impossible.  Almost every
woman was now being told that they were Her kind: fat,
unglamorous, ugly, flawed.  Every one of them was
being taught to feel Her self-loathing for themselves.

     Kate Moss, eat your heart out... along with some
saltines, apples and a side of x-lax.  The
Self-Loather is doing quite well these days.




Regards,
- R. Menzi

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