[UA] Pacific NW Clio sites

Cassady Toles Con_Job at excite.com
Mon Sep 25 17:02:04 PDT 2000


  And that's the crux of my arguement.  What's the threshold?  I realize 
  you've already mentioned the 1000 mile marker, but it's really how many 
  people know, not how far away they are (if I read the rules right).  For 
  example, Dealy Plaza gives off a significant charge.  But truth be know, I

  know a good section of people who wouldn't recognize Dealy Plaza.  You
know 
  it for two reasons: you're into JFK, or you're a conspiracy buff.  Ask the

  average joe on the street where Kennedy got shot and they'll say Dallas.  
  So, if Dealy Plaza does give off a siggie a day, I'd say, Bluff Creek
gives 
  off a siggie a week or a month.

My friend Alexai describes the existance of a certain white knowledge that
everyone has, but doesn't know where they got it.  That's what Cliomancy is
really about, that white knowledge.  This isn't official, but this is how I
rule it.  Cliomancy can pull from, tap into and manipulate what is in that
knowledge.  In order for a sight to grant that charge I think it has to fill
a noteworthy amount of space in that white zone.  I would give dealy plaza
that charge because most Americans have seen the film of JFK and would
recognize it if they saw it.  And most wouldn't necessarily remember every
instance where they saw it.  Anyone who knows Bluff Creek would have heard
it in a book when they were looking for such information.  I know that
sounds strict, but true.
    
  But what historically ever happened at Carnegie Hall, Grand Central
Station, 
  Disneyland?  Is it just enough to be known?  If so, then wouldn't the 
  Redwoods and the Grand Canyon give off siggies?  I thought it would have
to 
  be someplace *something* actually happened.
  
An amazing array of famous performers played historically recorded
performances at Carnegie Hall.  Grand Central station was the largest train
station in the world for a time and is still in the top few.  Disneyland was
the first amusement park.  But if those aren't enough, they also all fill
that white knowledge.  Everyone knows of the places.  No one remembers the
first time someone told them about one of them.  It's just white knowledge,
again why it's worth that charge.  The Grand Canyon is famous enough to
qualify for a significant charge.  The Redwoods aren't a place.  There are
california Redwoods up and down the central California coast.

  I'll admit, that was a statement of pure hyperbole, but I personally can't

  think of anything off the top of my head more famous.  Maybe that life
size 
  Babe the Blue Ox statue (next to life-size Paul Bunyan) with the gigantic 
  testicles.  But then again, nothing really happened there.

Things more famous than Bluff Creek:  Besides the aforementioned locations: 
Death Valley, (not CA but close to the border), Donner Pass (again close),
Hollywood and Vine (southern, not northern).  The Golden Dragon Restaurant
in San Francisco (legendary in California at least--a Tong gunfight killed
eighteen there in the seventies, first place I ever had dim sum).  The
Transamerica Pyramid, The Golden Gate Bridge, The Bay Bridge, The Nut Tree
is fairly famous, and known by more run of the mill people than Bluff creek,
though I don't know why.  All a good bit more famous than the Paul Bunyan
statue as well.
  
  But couldn't it store up a siggie after a few weeks?  Or never?
  
One of the themes of Unknown Armies is that a charge can be made smaller but
not bigger.  You can cut a significant charge into ten small peices, but
can't turn one thousand minors into a significant.  Either a place generates
significant charges or it doesn't.  That doesn't mean you couldn't attempt
to manipulate things to make one.  Filming a movie about something can
rocket it into that white space.  As can creating e-mail chain letters, as
can a million other things, but until you do that, it simply ain't a
significant charge...

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