[UA] PoMoMa NC17

[Doug Stalker]

Kevin Elmore wrote:

> >I almost feel this is the reason.  However, that's because
> of the debacle surrounding the creators of South Park.
> They made a movie called Orgazmo which received a rating of
> NC-17 and portrayed a minimal of nudity (from what I heard;
> I have not had the pleasure of seeing this) and typical
> amounts of objectionable material.  South Park, the movie,
> is a lot worse, yet it was given an R.  Trey Parker said
> over and over again that South Park only received an R
> because it was backed by a major studio while his little
> independent film had no power behind it.
>

Can someone summarise ratings in America?  In Australia R is restricted
to 18+, but from your comments it sounds like in America R is a lower
rating than NC-17, which I assume means 17+ years old only?

> Even if that was the case with White Wolf and Atlas, I
> can't imagine that gaming stores would intentionally follow
> a double standard.  There would be nothing to gain.  I
> doubt that White Wolf goons are threatening a boycott or
> something if a store doesn't display Vampire books.
>

There was some sort of Vampire novel released that included things like
necrophillia, rape, beastiality and so on. (WW put a chapter up on their
web site, and that included rape/incest/pedophillia/necrophillia with a
headless corpse) The illustrations supposedly included sexulised
violence.  The gaming store I frequent was selling it, but it was held
behind the counter and only sold to 18 year olds (offically at least)

Assuming this book is as bad as it was supposed to be (and I wasn't
going to buy just to find out, far too expensive IMO)  it should have
been submitted to the Australian board of Film and literature, where
depending on the opinion of the censors it should have been either 18+
or banned altogether.  ( I would like ot think 18+, but occasionally
Australian censors get pushed around by political considerations and ban
things that should (IMO) be let in)

PoMoMa was on display with everything else in the new releases section.
AFAIK that vampire novel is the only thing that has ever been sold from
behind teh conter liek that (Although I heard rumors they sold
grey-market pokemon cards before they were officially imported)

> Speaking of the carnal, I have a question on

> interpretation.  I never thought of it as just a penis.  I
> thought of it as a penis with a vagina underneath (as if it
> was able to bend over and violate itself).  Has anyone else
> seen it that way?

I thought is was a penis and mouth (to catch drips/violate itself) but
to be honest I didn't check that closely.


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