[UA] Over the Unknown Edge magick

[Tim Rudloff]

I'd say that if the defence roll fails, then it should be because the
spell failed, and no charges lost.  I mean, in UA, if an adept declares
"I'm balsting that guy," it results in damage and charge loss or no
damage and no charge loss, depending on the roll.
In OtE, the defence roll should frequently be based on willpower or
physical hardiness, and almost never on fighting ability.  This means
that normally formidable fighters can be way-layed with blasts, where as
other mystics are much less susceptible.  Assume that 0-sum blasts
indicate spell failure, rather than impervious targets.

Kevin Elmore wrote:

> > I would think of it this way:
> > Minor Blast is equivelent to a bare handed attack, a
> > Significant Blast
> > is equivilent to a gunshot.  Since OtE already has
> > systems in place for
> > resolving hand damage and gun damage, use those systems.
>
> Hrm, I thought about that.  However, combat in OTE uses
> defense dice.  If I allow that for magick, then it's
> possible to do a 0-point blast which still costs charges
> (or maybe allow the adept to keep the charges).
>
> If I don't allow a defense roll, then a 4-die adept can
> kill a person with a single minor blast.  Even rolling all
> 2's for a sig blast (assuming x5) would be pretty
> impressive.
>
> That has been bothering me.
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Tim Rudloff <trudloff at onr.com> wrote:
> > I would think of it this way:
> > Minor Blast is equivelent to a bare handed attack, a
> > Significant Blast
> > is equivilent to a gunshot.  Since OtE already has
> > systems in place for
> > resolving hand damage and gun damage, use those systems.
> >
> > Kevin Elmore wrote:
> >
> > > Hrm, I just had a thought regarding my UA/OtE
> > conversion.
> > >
> > > Blast numbers would be different.
> > >
> > > Right off the bat, I'm thinking that a minor blast
> > would be
> > > the sum of your die roll while a significant blast
> > could be
> > > a product of the dice.
> > >
> > > This works fine for people with 2 dice in magick.  A
> > minor
> > > blast would be no more than 12 points (without
> > rerolling
> > > 6's) while a significant blast would range from 1 to 36
> > > points of damage.  However, this also means that the
> > minor
> > > blast can practically kill someone with average hit
> > points
> > > (14).
> > >
> > > As soon as you get to three or four dice, then a
> > > significant blast will almost always kill someone.
> > > Honestly, this isn't too much different from the UA
> > rules.
> > > However, this would be much more likely in OtE.
> > > Statistically, the expected value of a three-die
> > > significant blast would be (3.5)^3 = 42 points of
> > damage.
> > > Even a tough guy would most likely be at about 28 hit
> > > points.
> > >
> > > Another possibility is that minor blasts would only do
> > the
> > > amount of damage of the highest die you roll.  Thus,
> > you
> > > may be lucky and do 5 or 6 damage.  This fits in nicely
> > > with UA in that a minor blast is not likely to kill
> > > someone.  A gun or knife would likely do more than
> > that.
> > >
> > > A significant blast would do the sum of the dice.  So,
> > a
> > > 2-die blast would do 2-12.  A 3-die blast would do
> > 3-18.  A
> > > massive 4-die blast would do 4-24.  A person typically
> > has
> > > 14 hit points while a buff warrior type would have 28
> > hit
> > > points.
> > >
> > > If obsessions are granted a bonus die, then the above
> > > numbers are skewed.
> > >
> > > So you OTE people, what do you think?  Now that I
> > thought
> > > up the latter method, I like that a hell of a lot more
> > than
> > > the former.
> > >
> > > Kevin Elmore
> > >
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