[TRNSYS-users] type56 and type68

Le Talave contact at letalave.com
Fri Mar 8 09:45:32 PST 2019


David, 

I placed the components as specified (below) but the problem appears
again, for another orientation. I checked all the links for all faces. I
made a mistake before, the warning message's orientation is type56's
orientation, not type109. If I delete the links of the problematic
orientation (number 8), I got an error message this time: 

*** Fatal Error at time   :       880.000000
    Generated by Unit     :    31
    Generated by Type     :    56
    Message               : Negative value of solar radiation for  
5orientation encountered 

Any idea? 

Many thanks, 

Olivier 

*** The TRNSYS components will be called in the following order:
      Unit #   25   Type #   14
      Unit #   48   Type #   14
      Unit #   50   Type #  501
      Unit #    3   Type #  109
      Unit #   61   Type #   68
      Unit #   60   Type #   68
      Unit #   19   Type #   68
      Unit #   22   Type #   68
      Unit #   33   Type #   68
      Unit #   37   Type #   68
      Unit #   38   Type #   68
      Unit #   41   Type #   68
      Unit #    9   Type #  557
      Unit #   45   Type #   69
      Unit #   44   Type #   33
      Unit #   43   Type #   57
      Unit #   31   Type #   56
      Unit #   30   Type #    1
      Unit #   15   Type #   68
      Unit #   47   Type #   11
      Unit #   46   Type #   11
      Unit #   58   Type #    2
      Unit #   54   Type #    2
      Unit #   63   Type #    2
      Unit #   42   Type #  649
      Unit #   28   Type #  531
      Unit #   51   Type #    2
      Unit #   55   Type #   57
      Unit #   39   Type #    2
      Unit #   27   Type #   57
      Unit #   49   Type #    3
      Unit #   40   Type #    3
      Unit #   62   Type #    3
      Unit #   24   Type #    3
      Unit #   35   Type #    3
      Unit #   64   Type #   55
      Unit #   57   Type #   24
      Unit #   26   Type #   65
      Unit #   13   Type #   65
      Unit #   11   Type #   65
      Unit #   32   Type #   65
      Unit #   18   Type #   65 

Le 2019-03-08 17:52, David BRADLEY a écrit :

> Olivier, 
> 
> Make sure that the Type109 appears before Type56 in the component order. While you are there, make sure that the Type68 appears after the Type109 and before Type56. Component order can be modified in the control cards tool (where you go to set the simulation start and stop times) 
> 
> kind regards, 
> 
> David 
> 
> On 03/08/2019 10:26, Le Talave wrote: 
> 
> Dear David, 
> 
> thank you for the advice. Unfortunatly, when I link the IA directly from type109, I have multiple warnings with this message: "Beam radiation greater than 0 occured for an  incident angle of   97.52 greater than 90° for orientation   6. Beam radiation has been set to 0.!"; and the simulation stops when the threshold of 30 warnings is reached. 
> 
> Orientation 6 is 90°/315° (south east wall). For the roof's IA, there are no problems if only them are linked from 109 to 56. When I link one or many walls, this issue happens. Certainly because of a mistake of mine, but I don't see what it could be. 
> 
> Thanks a lot for your help. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Olivier 
> 
> Le 2019-03-08 16:43, David BRADLEY a écrit : 
> 
> Olivier, 
> 
> Almost! the AI-orientation input is asking for the angle of incidence of beam radiation on the surface. That should come directly from the weather component to Type56. You are correct about the other two 
> 
> kind regards, 
> 
> David 
> 
> On 03/08/2019 08:38, Le Talave via TRNSYS-users wrote: 
> 
> Dear Trnsys community, 
> 
> To be sure not to make a mistake about how to plug type68 with type56. Is it true to plug (Type68 ------>Type56): 
> 
> Solar Altitude Angle--------->AI-ORIENTATION- ? 
> 
> Shaded total rad. for surface--------->IT-ORIENTATION- ? 
> 
> Shaded beam rad. for surface---------->IB-ORIENTATION- ? 
> 
> Many thanks for your advices 
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Olivier 
> 
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