[TRNSYS-users] Borehole Model from TESS

Sat Aug 5 10:30:41 PDT 2017

Dear all,

I am modeling a *Open Loop Borehole system for two Open Wells*, one for
abstracting underground water, another well for discharging, using TESS
lib. However, I'd like to ask you *which type* is available for Open Loop
Borehole system? I just found a Type 557 for U-tube borehole.

Look forward to your reply.

Many thanks

Br

Yang

2017-08-02 10:53 GMT+01:00 WANG Yang <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>:

> Dear all,
>
> I'd like to ask you one question about the error for Radiator Type 1231
> shown in attached picture.
>
> I used its heat transfer rate output to connect Type 56's own-defined
> input as the heating power. Then it appears that error. If I delete
> Radiator Type 1231, it runs well.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Br.
>
> Yang
>
> 2017-08-01 21:12 GMT+01:00 via TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users at lists.
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>> From: Domenico Mazzeo via TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users at lists.
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>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] variable timestep
>> You could run more simulation with different time steps.
>> Then you could join the results with a variable time step.
>> Regards
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>> Il 01 Ago 2017 16:53, "Jeff Thornton via TRNSYS-users" <
>> trnsys-users at lists.onebuilding.org> ha scritto:
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>>> No, TRNSYS uses a fixed time step for the duration of the simulation.
>>>
>>> Jeff
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> > On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Jorge Facao via TRNSYS-users <
>>> trnsys-users at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:
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>>> > Hello,
>>> > Is it possible to run a simulation with variable time-step in TRNSYS
>>> 17?
>>> > I have tried to put a time-step as a string in control cards but TRNSYS
>>> > consider the initial value of the string for all simulation.
>>> > Thanks in advance and best regards,
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>> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:57:14 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Exact same control signal for different Type
>> 11f gives diferent results.
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>> Javier,
>>
>> That sounds suspiciously like a convergence problem.  Have you checked
>> the list file to see if you are running into convergence issues?  Have you
>> tried to TRACE the models in question to see what's happening on an
>> iteration by iteration basis?  If it's convergence problems then the
>> questions become: are you using a small timestep?  Are you using a
>> controller with hysteresis? etc.
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>> Jeff
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>> On 08/01/2017 7:56 am, Javier Vega via TRNSYS-users wrote:
>>
>> Hello TRNSYS users,
>>
>> I want to use two Type 11f (controller flow diverter) components with the
>> same control signal. One Type 11f redirects solar collector flow
>> (Type 553), while the other redirects another circuit's flow to one an
>> Air-Source Heat Pump or a Water Source Heat Pump  (Type 941 or Type 927).
>> The  events are supposed to happen at the same time.
>>
>> Monitoring the results, my DHW temperature falls. When I looked it up,
>> the flow diverters aren't working at the same time. And what it's worse,
>> something happens with the Heat Pumps: I studied the control signals, and
>> they are activated at the same time, but the heat pump's circuit redirects
>> the flow when it isn't supposed to happen and also the Heat Pump that by
>> mistakes recieves flow doesn't heat the water flow. This is what bothers me
>> the most because I set the Heating control signal to a constant 1, so
>> everytime the HP recieves flow it heats.
>>
>> I simply don't know how to address this issue, same control signals
>> giving different results, and a Heat Pump that recieves flow by mistake but
>> doesn't heat. I would appreciate some help.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Javier Vega
>> Universidad de Concepcion
>>
>> 2017-07-28 15:29 GMT-04:00 Javier Vega <jvega025 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hello TRNSYS users,
>>>
>>> I want to use two Type 11f (controller flow diverter) components with
>>> the same control signal. One Type 11f redirects solar collector flow
>>> (Type 553), while the other redirects another circuit's flow to one an
>>> Air-Source Heat Pump or a Water Source Heat Pump  (Type 941 or Type 927).
>>> The  events are supposed to happen at the same time.
>>>
>>> Monitoring the results, my DHW temperature falls. When I looked it up,
>>> the flow diverters aren't working at the same time. And what it's worse,
>>> something happens with the Heat Pumps: I studied the control signals, and
>>> they are activated at the same time, but the heat pump's circuit redirects
>>> the flow when it isn't supposed to happen and also the Heat Pump that by
>>> mistakes recieves flow doesn't heat the water flow. This is what bothers me
>>> the most because I set the Heating control signal to a constant 1, so
>>> everytime the HP recieves flow it heats.
>>>
>>> I simply don't know how to address this issue, same control signals
>>> giving different results, and a Heat Pump that recieves flow by mistake but
>>> doesn't heat. I would appreciate some help.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Javier Vega
>>> Universidad de Concepcion
>>>
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