[TRNSYS-users] Conceptual loop question

David BRADLEY d.bradley at tess-inc.com
Mon Feb 22 07:43:21 PST 2016


Brian,
   In your example of a tank and an auxiliary heater you are correct 
that the first component appearing in the input file determines the flow 
for both. The order of components in the input file is determined by the 
order in which they were placed on the assembly panel in the Studio. 
However, you can modify the order by opening the control cards (where 
you set the simulation start and stop times) and then by clicking on the 
"component order" tab. Click and drag components around the list to 
change their order.

   TRNSYS typically uses the "successive substitution" method to solve 
the system of components. The outputs of one component are substituted 
into the inputs for the components to which that output is connected. 
Each component takes its current set of inputs and computes its outputs, 
passing them back to the TRNSYS kernel (brains) to see whether they have 
changed from the previous iteration. Once everything stops changing from 
iteration to iteration the kernel decides that convergence has been 
reached and advances to the next timestep.

   Your example changes somewhat if you put a pump into the system. 
Pumps and fans in TRNSYS control the downstream flow. The output flow 
rate from a pump or a fan is the rated flow rate multiplied by the 
control signal (usually; there are some components that do not conform 
to this method). The flow rate from the pump or fan is then passed to 
the downstream components and should get passed all the way around the 
flow loop such that there is a mass balance. Most pump and fan models 
issue a warning as to how much of the simulation their mass balance failed.

kind regards,
  David


On 02/17/2016 21:07, Brian Raichle wrote:
> Here's a general question about how TRNSYS operates:
>
> Suppose 2 components are linked, for example flow from a tank to an 
> auxiliary heater and back to the tank. Both component's inputs has a 
> default flow value. How does TRNSYS determine which flow to use?
>
> My only guess is ordering of the components in the dck file. First 
> component listed determines the value? Then what determines component 
> ordering in the dck file?
>
> Thanks!
> Brian
>
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> Department of Sustainable Technology & the Built Environment
> Appalachian State University
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