[TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 128, Issue 24 (Mean Radiant Temperature)

Bradley Painting paintingbr at appstate.edu
Sat Aug 22 09:39:00 PDT 2015


Hi Asit,

I can see how sunlight would change the mean radiant temperature (MRT);
however, the multizone manual says that TRNSYS only calculates MRT from
longwave radiation (emitted from surrounding surfaces). I am using internal
calculation -- simple model, which uses the formula:

[image: Inline image 1]

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> Hello Brad,
>                 I have observed this happening (while taking readings with
> a globe thermometer) for locations near fenestration in summer. So, if you
> have a significant percentage of wall area covered by fenestration, this
> could happen. I cannot explain the winter situation though.
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> Asit
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>>    1. Solar Thermal Collector outlet temperature (Arnaud Candaele)
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>>       Temps (Bradley Painting)
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>> From: Arnaud Candaele <arnaud.candaele at gmail.com>
>> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
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>> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:45:08 +0200
>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Solar Thermal Collector outlet temperature
>> Hi,
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>> I'm trying to model a simple solar thermal collector, using Type1a.
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>> I created a very simple test case, basically just taking the outdoor
>> temperature and solar radiation, and plotting the outlet temperature.
>> The thing is, I'm changing the number of collectors in series, and the
>> plotted outlet temperature doesn't change at all.
>> Isn't it supposed to change ?
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>> Thanks for any help !
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>> Arnaud
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>> From: Bradley Painting <paintingbr at appstate.edu>
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>> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:05:56 -0400
>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Mean Radiant Temperature More Extreme than
>> Individual Surface Temps
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am seeing poor thermal comfort and found that the mean radiant
>> temperature of my air node is more extreme than the inside surface
>> temperature of any individual wall or window comprising the airnode. It is
>> much colder in the winter and much warmer in the summer.
>>
>> This doesn't seem possible to me. Any idea what could cause this? Please
>> see first the aggregate temperature range for all walls and windows, and
>> then the mean radiant temperature for the same time period in the two
>> respective graphs below. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
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>> [image: Inline image 2]
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>> --
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>> Brad Painting
>>
>> Master of Science Candidate, Renewable Energy Engineering
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>> Department of Technology & Environmental Design
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>> Appalachian State University
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>> Boone, NC  28608
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Brad Painting

Master of Science Candidate, Renewable Energy Engineering

Department of Technology & Environmental Design

Appalachian State University

Boone, NC  28608
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