[TRNSYS-users] Type 9e ERROR

王洋 wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 26 07:18:02 PDT 2012


Dear David,

Thanks for your reply!

I checked the parameters of Type9 and corrected. But it appeared another
error as follows.

*** Fatal Error at time   :         0.000000
    Generated by Unit     : Not applicable or not available
    Generated by Type     : Not applicable or not available
    TRNSYS Message     48 : The TRNSYS processor has reported that an
unrecognized control card was found while trying to read the input file.
This error can be caused by underspecifying a required number of items in
the input file.  For example, specifiying only 9 parameters after a
"PARAMETERS 10" card has been read can cause this error. The line that
caused this error is listed in the reported information below.
    Reported information  : global

*** Notice at time        :         0.000000
    Generated by Unit     : Not applicable or not available
    Generated by Type     : Not applicable or not available
    TRNSYS Message    503 : Just before reporting the error while
processing the TRNSYS input file, the TRNSYS processor was performing the
task listed in the reported information line below.
    Reported information  : Processing the unit descriptions for the inputs
to the UNIT 18 TYPE 65 component.


*** Fatal Error at time   :         0.000000
    Generated by Unit     : Not applicable or not available
    Generated by Type     : Not applicable or not available
    Message               : Errors found while processing the TRNSYS input
file.


How could I solve this problem?

Many thanks in advance!
Br.

wang


2012/10/25 David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>

>  Wang,
>   There is nothing wrong with the data file; I would imagine that the
> fault lies in the parameters of Type9. check to make sure that you have
> correctly specified the number of header lines to skip (1 in your case) and
> the correct number of values to read (7 in your case). The data interval
> should be 0.1 hours. I would guess that you want to set Type9 to mode 3.
> Best,
>  David
>
>
>
> On 10/25/2012 09:22, 王洋 wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I used Type 9e with an external weather txt file (please see the attached
> file) using TRNSYS 16, it appeared an error as follows:
>
> *** Fatal Error at time   :      3816.000000
>     Generated by Unit     :    17
>     Generated by Type     :     9
>     Message               : Unable to correctly read from the supplied
> data file. Please check the file and re-run the simulation. The most likely
> cause of this problem is an empty or non-existent file.
>
> But this file is not empty or non-existent file.
> Is its form of txt file not right or proper for TRNSYS-reading?
>
> Many thanks in advance!
> Br.
>
> wang
>
>
>
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>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] FW: TYPE 56, Active layer minflow error
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>> David,
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>>
>>
>> Thank you for the fast responds, i will send you the  total map file. The
>> project its not yet complicated, im trying to add additional subsystems to
>> the house, so the model will become more realistic.
>>
>>
>>
>> Im adding a floor heating but i dont have any details about the floor
>> heating (yet). So im trying to make a default floor heating active layer,
>> so that i can later on adjust it with the details of the house.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another question: the exterior walls  have a specified R value, does it
>> matter if i model the exterior walls with multiple layer with combined is
>> that R value or can i just implement 1 layer with the same specified R
>> value?
>>
>> As the walls a modeled with the response theory it does not really matter
>> what u stick  in between the frontside and backside aslong as the R is the
>> same correct?
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>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* David BRADLEY [d.bradley at tess-inc.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:05 PM
>> *To:* Patrick Fabriek
>> *Cc:* trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [TRNSYS-users] TYPE 56, Active layer minflow error
>>
>> Patrick,
>>   This is a known bug and one that we are working on solving. The problem
>> appears to come from a dynamic calculation of the transition between
>> laminar and turbulent flow which (to my understanding) includes a
>> correction for the actual water temperature when performed during a
>> simulation in Type56 but for an assumed water temperature when performed in
>> TRNBuild. I have found that if you increase the mass flow rate by a bit
>> then you get away from the problem. It sounds, however, as though this
>> hasn't worked in your case. If the project is not too complicated, please
>> send it and we can have a closer look internally.
>> Kind regards,
>>  David
>>
>>  On 10/18/2012 05:57, Patrick Fabriek wrote:
>>
>>  Dear Trnsys users,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been using Trnsys for a months now and trying to model a
>> simple single floor Zero energy house recently build in Rotterdam.
>>
>>
>>
>> Im now at the point where i am defining the floor heating with active
>> layer in TRNBuild but  i get this error : Specific fluid mass flow of
>> active layer in surface 1 below minimum value of 12,98 kg/m2h.
>>
>> The minimum allowed inlet specific mass flowrate is valued at 16.68 kg/ h
>> m2 so this error is very strange. I put the desired specific flow rate at
>> 17.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been increasing the massflow or lowering it still give the error.
>>
>> Does trnsys studio recalculate specific value somewhere else? anyone has
>> a another solution for implementing floor heating.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
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>>
>> Patrick F
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