[TRNSYS-users] Did not find TRNDLL.dll

Fri May 25 00:41:51 PDT 2012

Dear David,

I am running Trnsys 16. Indeed, it is very strange. Today, I run this
program again, it works. However, On-line Plotter only shows other Type
65's results, my new adding Type 65c can't show its result.
Could you or other experts deal with this problem? And which one I should
use for showing on-line plotter? Type 65c or Type 65d?

Many thanks again!

br.
wang

2012/5/24 David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>

>  Wang,
>   Are you running Trnsys16 or Trnsys17? In Trnsys16, we had a very strange
> bug like this. We were never able to track down the cause (nor find a
> solution); our suspicion was that there was some part of Type56 and some
> part of the TRNExe (the part that performs the Type56 plotting) that
> overlapped in memory usage. It occurred very rarely and we were not able to
> find a systematic repeatable way of generating the error. I have not
> encountered or heard of anyone else having the problem in Trnsys17. In
> Trnsys16 unfortunately, the only workaround is to use an alternative output
> device such as Type25 and to plot results externally.
> Best,
>  David
>
>
>
> On 5/24/2012 00:49, 王洋 wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Originally, I run a tpf program well. However, I run this program again
> after I add Type 65, it shows "Did not find TRNDLL.dll" . Meanwhile, I
> run other normal programs and even EXAMPLES of TRNSYS, they also shows "Did
> not find TRNDLL.dll".
> Who could tell me how to deal with this problem?
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> br.
>
> wang
>
> 2012/5/23 <trnsys-users-request at cae.wisc.edu>
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>>   4. Concentrating PV-Thermal collector (Mahdi Hedayatizadeh)
>>   5. Did not find TRNDLL.dll (??)
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>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: esterl at pk-i.de
>> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> Cc:
>> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 16:37:12 +0200
>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Keeping Calculated Value over Time Period
>>
>> Dear Trnsys Users,
>>
>> I have a Problem in a Trnsys Simulation.
>> I want to keep a calculated value at a certain time step over 24 hours and
>> then calculate a new one.
>> For example:  I want to calculate the value at hour 0 of day 1 and then
>> use
>> this value in further calculations on this day. At day 2 i want to do the
>> same with the new value for hour 0 of that day.
>>
>> The problem i'm having is, that i don't know how to tell transys to use a
>> value over 24 hours an then calculate a new one for the next 24 hours and
>> so on.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your Help !
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: Damien Gondre <damien.gondre at insa-lyon.fr>
>> To: esterl at pk-i.de
>> Cc: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 15:14:56 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Keeping Calculated Value over Time Period
>>
>> Dear Steve,
>>
>> I know a solution that should work but it is not necessarily the best one:
>> You could use an equation box with an input variable called *old_value *for
>> instance, and two output variables called *value *and *new_value* for
>> instance. At each time step you have to stock the *value* in the *old_value
>> *variable using the input value recall (type 71).
>> In the *new_value *variable you calculate the new value at each htime
>> step.
>>
>> Then you decide upon the hour of the curent day if you want to use the
>> old value or the new value by using the following equation :
>> *value = eql(mod(time,24),0)*new_value+(1-eql(mod(time,24),0))*old_value*
>>
>>
>> It should work,
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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>>
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>>
>> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:37 PM, <esterl at pk-i.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Trnsys Users,
>>>
>>> I have a Problem in a Trnsys Simulation.
>>> I want to keep a calculated value at a certain time step over 24 hours
>>> and
>>> then calculate a new one.
>>> For example:  I want to calculate the value at hour 0 of day 1 and then
>>> use
>>> this value in further calculations on this day. At day 2 i want to do the
>>> same with the new value for hour 0 of that day.
>>>
>>> The problem i'm having is, that i don't know how to tell transys to use a
>>> value over 24 hours an then calculate a new one for the next 24 hours and
>>> so on.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your Help !
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com>
>> To: Erik Boschek <erikboschek at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu" <TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu>
>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 09:34:40 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] DynamicData and Visual Fortran XE 2011
>>  Erik,
>>   We found and fixed this in Trnsys17 when we moved over to the IVF
>> compilers. CVF didn't mind if you exited a subroutine without deallocating
>> your allocatable arrays (it deallocated them for you). IVF is a bit more
>> rigorous and forces you do deallocate arrays manually. You need to add the
>> following lines to the GROW() subroutine in DynamicData
>>
>> Deallocate(X1TEMPdd)
>> Deallocate(X2TEMPdd)
>> Deallocate(X3TEMPdd)
>> Deallocate(X4TEMPdd)
>> Deallocate(LUSTORTEMPdd)
>> Deallocate(YDATATEMPdd)
>> Deallocate(DATAINTEMPdd)
>> Deallocate(IPTTEMPdd)
>>
>>   Another issue that you may run into is that IVF does not like when a
>> function returns without setting a return value. CVF was more forgiving
>> about that. You will need to go through some of the TrnsysFunctions
>> routines and make sure that they always set a return value. Again, this is
>> fixed in Trnsys17.
>> Best,
>>  David
>>
>>
>> On 5/23/2012 06:13, Erik Boschek wrote:
>>
>>  Dear TRNSYS users,
>>
>> I am in the process of migrating to Intel Visual Fortran Composer XE
>> 2011, with VS2010 from CVF6.6 for component development. I'm currently
>> using TRNSYS 16.
>>
>> Generally, with not too many problems I've gotten TRNSYS to compile and a
>> few custom types.
>>
>> However, in the mean time I've run into an issue which seems to be
>> related to calling "DynamicData", which I use quite often.
>>
>> I've found that if I create a simulation with more than one call, TRNSYS
>> crashes with a run-time error "severe (151): allocatable array is already
>> allocated" (as attaced screen shot).
>>
>> To check that it wasn't related to my own component, I could also
>> reproduce this simply by e.g. putting two instances of TESS Type581 (multi
>> dimensional interpolation) into an empty project. This never occurs for the
>> basic installed TRNDll or one I've compiled with the old compiler.
>>
>> Is this problem known to anyone and is there a fix? Is the new intel
>> compiler supported or is it known to give problems with TRNSYS? Would this
>> problem disapear using TRNSYS 17?
>>
>> Thanks for any insight,
>>
>> Erik Boschek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> David BRADLEY
>> Principal
>> Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
>> 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
>> Madison, WI  53703 USA
>>
>> P:+1.608.274.2577
>> F:+1.608.278.1475d.bradley at tess-inc.com
>> http://www.tess-inc.comhttp://www.trnsys.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: Mahdi Hedayatizadeh <mhedayatizadeh at gmail.com>
>> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 19:19:51 +0430
>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Concentrating PV-Thermal collector
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I tried to model a kind of a system including a concentrating PV-thermal
>> collector (TYPE 50) in TRNSYS 16 while I faced errors. I tried to find the
>> problem by deleting some components that finally I got the problem is only
>> associated with the PV-thermal Concentrator component. Finally, I put only
>> a PV-Thermal concentrotor and an online plotter in an empty file with some
>> input and parameter data ( A very simple one), but it still does not plot
>> any result such as the outlet temperature of the collector.
>>
>> Has anyone faced the same or relevant problem?
>>
>> Looking forwards to hearing from you.
>> Mahdi
>>
>> --
>> Mahdi Hedayatizadeh
>> Ph.D. Candidate,
>> Energy in Agriculture,
>> Department of Agricultural Machinery Engineering,
>> Faculty of Agriculture,
>> University of Tabriz,
>> Tabriz, Iran.
>> Tel.: +98 9384772799,
>> Email: hedayatizadeh at tabrizu.ac.ir
>>
>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: 王洋 <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>
>> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 17:54:45 +0200
>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Did not find TRNDLL.dll
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Originally, I run a tpf program well. However, I run this program again
>> after I add Type 65, it shows "Did not find TRNDLL.dll" . Meanwhile, I
>> run other normal programs and even EXAMPLES of TRNSYS, they also shows "Did
>> not find TRNDLL.dll".
>> Who could tell me how to deal with this problem?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance!
>>
>> br.
>>
>> wang
>>
>> 2012/5/23 <trnsys-users-request at cae.wisc.edu>
>>
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>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>>   1.  DynamicData and Visual Fortran XE 2011 (Erik Boschek)
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>>> From: Erik Boschek <erikboschek at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu" <TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 04:13:45 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] DynamicData and Visual Fortran XE 2011
>>>  Dear TRNSYS users,
>>>
>>> I am in the process of migrating to Intel Visual Fortran Composer XE
>>> 2011, with VS2010 from CVF6.6 for component development. I'm currently
>>> using TRNSYS 16.
>>>
>>> Generally, with not too many problems I've gotten TRNSYS to compile and
>>> a few custom types.
>>>
>>> However, in the mean time I've run into an issue which seems to be
>>> related to calling "DynamicData", which I use quite often.
>>>
>>> I've found that if I create a simulation with more than one call,
>>> TRNSYS crashes with a run-time error "severe (151): allocatable array is
>>> already allocated" (as attaced screen shot).
>>>
>>> To check that it wasn't related to my own component, I could also
>>> reproduce this simply by e.g. putting two instances of TESS Type581 (multi
>>> dimensional interpolation) into an empty project. This never occurs for the
>>> basic installed TRNDll or one I've compiled with the old compiler.
>>>
>>> Is this problem known to anyone and is there a fix? Is the new intel
>>> compiler supported or is it known to give problems with TRNSYS? Would this
>>> problem disapear using TRNSYS 17?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any insight,
>>>
>>> Erik Boschek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TRNSYS-users mailing list
>>> TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu
>>> https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users
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> Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
> 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
> Madison, WI  53703 USA
>
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> F:+1.608.278.1475d.bradley at tess-inc.com
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