[TRNSYS-users] reinstalling bugs of TRNSYS

王洋 wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 21 07:28:55 PDT 2011


Dear Mr. Duffy,

           Thanks for your quick reply!

           I used TRNSYS 17. Indeed I reinstalled into C:\program\Trnsys17
which is a clean and empty directory. Until now only when I run a simulation
this error appears. I didn't find this error under other situation.

          Many thanks!

         Br.

        wang

2011/9/21 Matt Duffy <duffy at tess-inc.com>

> Wang,
>
> What version are you reinstalling? Are you reinstalling into a clean, empty
> directory? Does this error occur when you run a simulation or somewhere
> else?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt
>
>
>   *----- Original Message -----*
> *From:* "王洋" <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wed, September 21, 2011 8:53
> *Subject:* [TRNSYS-users] reinstalling bugs of TRNSYS
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>        After I reinstalled TRNSYS, I run the former programs, it always
> appears as follows before Online-plotter shows:
> 1. I/O error 103,
> 2.TRNExe.exe has a problem and it will end (Dialogue Box),
> 2. Application error: Exception EAccessViolation in module. TRNExe.exe at
> FFFFFF045......
>
> Please give me some solutions!
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Br.
>
> wang
> 2011/9/21 <trnsys-users-request at cae.wisc.edu>
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>>   3. Re: Insulated window panel (Matt Duffy)
>>   4. Re: Type 56 active layer accuracy, alternatives (Matt Duffy)
>>   5. Re: Type 2b controller dead band problem. (Matt Duffy)
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>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: Richard Flarend <ref7 at psu.edu>
>> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:43:47 -0400
>> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Insulated window panel
>> Can someone point me to where I can find a pre-defined window glazing type
>> (in TRNBUILD) for a rigid fiberglass board window panel?  I assume there is
>> such a thing so that I don't have to make this a 'wall'.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard Flarend
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: Michael Bissett <mikebiscuit at gmail.com>
>> To: Angel Carrera <angel.carrera at aiguasol.coop>
>> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:44:17 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 2b controller dead band problem.
>> Hi
>>
>> I have read the information, I have tried to increase parameter 1, I have
>> also looped the controller to its self. Still it does not work
>> I have also tried changing many other parameters and have spent a lot of
>> time on this problem. still with no luck.
>>
>> Any other suggestions?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Angel Carrera <
>> angel.carrera at aiguasol.coop> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> you should connect the output control function of the controller to its
>>> own input control function (Input number 4). Also, you should increase the
>>> value of parameter 1, to the default value at least (the influence of this
>>> parameter is explained at the type 2 documentation, I recommend you to read
>>> it, together with the generic section for controllers at the trnsys help)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Angel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/9/19 Michael Bissett <mikebiscuit at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Trnsys
>>>>
>>>> I am experiencing problems with a simple* type 2b controller*.
>>>>
>>>> I am using a solar collector type 564b
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to compare the temperature of the output of the collector
>>>> with output of the tank, getting a temperature difference. I have set the
>>>> dead band from 4-10 degrees C.
>>>>
>>>> In the simulation as the temperature rises to 10degrees difference, the
>>>> control signal is 1 switching the pump on correctly. but after this the
>>>> controller only switches every time step. I have tried shortening the time
>>>> step... and changing other parameters.. still with no success.
>>>>
>>>> I have attached the file.
>>>>
>>>> Yours Sincerely
>>>>
>>>> Mike Bissett
>>>>
>>>> Department of Electrical Engineering
>>>> University of Cape Town
>>>> South Africa
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> TRNSYS-users mailing list
>>>> TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Àngel Carrera*
>>>
>>> *Responsable I+D
>>> Àrea tècnica*
>>>
>>> Sistemes Avançats d'Energia Solar Tèrmica SCCL
>>> C/ Roger de Llúria, 29 3r 2a 08009 Barcelona
>>> Tel: (+34) 93 342 47 55 Fax: (+34) 93 342 47 56
>>>
>>> angel.carrera at aiguasol.coop
>>> http://www.aiguasol.coop
>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: "Matt Duffy" <duffy at tess-inc.com>
>> To: "Richard Flarend" <ref7 at psu.edu>, trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:36:40 -0500 (CDT)
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Insulated window panel
>> Richard,
>>
>> Yes, I would probably make that a 'mass-less' resistive wall in TRNBuild
>> especiallly if there is no or little light passing through the fiberglass
>> panel.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Matt Duffy
>>
>>
>> *----- Original Message -----*
>> *From:* "Richard Flarend" <ref7 at psu.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tue, September 20, 2011 14:43
>> *Subject:* [TRNSYS-users] Insulated window panel
>>
>>   Can someone point me to where I can find a pre-defined window glazing
>> type (in TRNBUILD) for a rigid fiberglass board window panel?  I
>> assume there is such a thing so that I don't have to make this a 'wall'.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard Flarend
>>
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>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: "Matt Duffy" <duffy at tess-inc.com>
>> To: mathieu.levesque at polymtl.ca, trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:20:05 -0500 (CDT)
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56 active layer accuracy, alternatives
>> Mathieu
>>
>> You might also want to consider one of the slab components in the TESS
>> Ground Coupling Library as the source code is provided, and the heat flux is
>> finite difference and not conduction transfer function method. The
>> semi-empirical method in Type56 has limited configurations, and other than
>> the TRNBuild documentation, I am not sure how it is calculated.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Matt Duffy
>>
>>
>> *----- Original Message -----*
>> *From:* "Mathieu Lévesque" <mathieu.levesque at polymtl.ca>
>> *Sent:* Mon, September 19, 2011 15:51
>> *Subject:* [TRNSYS-users] Type 56 active layer accuracy, alternatives
>>
>>   Dear all,
>>
>> I'm currently studying the coupling between thermally activated building
>> systems (TABS), or floor heating/cooling, and geothermal heat pumps. I chose
>> using the active layer in type 56, but I recently read in an article by T.
>> Weber (*An optimized RC-network for thermally activated
>> building components*, Building and Environment, 2005) that "...it will
>> loose a part of its accuracy for harmonic temperature fluctuations in the
>> pipe having a period lower than 10 h". However, this sentence refers to an
>> article that has never been published.
>>
>> The calculation of the energy storage in the slab is very important for my
>> study. However, the validation of the active layer in type 56 refers to a
>> comparison of the heat fluxes at the slab's upper and lower surface and the
>> mean temperature at pipe level.
>>
>> Therefore, is there a! known accuracy problem with the energy storage
>> calculations in type 5 6's active layer, usually for high temperature
>> or flow rate fluctuations?
>>
>> Also, except from type 56's active layer and type 360 (Floor heating and
>> hypocaust), are there other types available for floor heating/cooling?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>> *Mathieu Lévesque*
>> Master student
>> Département de génie mécanique
>> École Polytechnique de Montréal
>> mathieu.levesque at polymtl.ca
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>>
>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: "Matt Duffy" <duffy at tess-inc.com>
>> To: "Michael Bissett" <mikebiscuit at gmail.com>,
>> angel.carrera at aiguasol.coop
>> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:33:42 -0500 (CDT)
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 2b controller dead band problem.
>>
>> Dear Michael,
>>
>> Please make sure that you are using a reasonable timestep such as 0.125 hr
>> (type in terms of hours to avoid problems with the Studio's minute
>> conversion trucation). Also, make sure that you have the latest TRNSYS and
>> TESS Libraries versions as well.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Matt Duffy
>>
>> *----- Original Message -----*
>> *From:* "Michael Bissett" <mikebiscuit at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tue, September 20, 2011 12:44
>> *Subject:* Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 2b controller dead band problem.
>>
>>   Hi
>>
>> I have read the information, I have tried to ! increase parameter 1, I
>> have also looped the controller to its self. Still it does not work
>> I have also tried changing many other parameters and have spent a lot of
>> time on this problem. still with no luck.
>>
>> Any other suggestions?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Angel Carrera <
>> angel.carrera at aiguasol.coop> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> you should connect the output control function of the controller to its
>>> own input control function (Input number 4). Also, you should increase the
>>> value of parameter 1, to the default value at least (the influence of this
>>> parameter is explained at the type ! 2 documentation, I recommend you to
>>> read it, together with the generic section for controllers at the trnsys
>>> help)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Angel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/9/19 Michael Bissett <mikebiscuit at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Trnsys
>>>>
>>>> I am experiencing problems with a simple* type 2b controller*.
>>>>
>>>> I am using a solar collector type 564b
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to compare the temperature of the output of the collector
>>>> with output of the tank, getting a temperature difference. I have set the
>>>> dead band from 4-10 degrees C.
>>>>
>>>> In the simulation as the temperature rises to 10degrees difference, the
>>>> control signal is 1 switching the pump on! correctly. but after this the
>>>> controller only switches every time step. I have tried shortening the time
>>>> step... and changing other parameters.. still with no success.
>>>>
>>>> I have attached the file.
>>>>
>>>> Yours Sincerely
>>>>
>>>> Mike Bissett
>>>>
>>>> Department of Electrical Engineering
>>>> University of Cape Town
>>>> South Africa
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> TRNSYS-users mailing list
>>>> TRNSYS-users at cae.wisc.edu
>>>> https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Àngel Carrera*
>>>
>>> *Responsable I+D
>>> Àrea tècnica*
>>>
>>> Sistemes Avançats d'Energia Solar Tèrmica SCCL
>>> C/ Roger de Llúria, 29 3r 2a 08009 Barcelona
>>> Tel: (+34) 93 342 47 55 Fax: (+34) 93 342 47 56
>>>
>>> angel.carrera at aiguasol.coop
>>> http://www.aiguasol.coop
>>>
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