[TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 86

WALID KADRI walidenergetique at gmail.com
Sat May 7 14:37:57 PDT 2011


Realy thank you,

2011/4/28 <trnsys-users-request at cae.wisc.edu>

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>   1. Starting a TRNSED application from a batch file (or       similar)
>      (Jochen Doell)
>   2. Re: How to use Type 84 properly (Leo H?berlein)
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> From: Jochen Doell <jochen.doell at ise.fraunhofer.de>
> To: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:58:43 +0200
> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Starting a TRNSED application from a batch file (or
> similar)
> Dear TRNSYS users,
>
> is it possible to start a TRNSED application from a batch file without
> having to select a file and klicking something somewhere?
> So far, I succeeded in starting the exe with a batch file like this:
>
> @echo off
> start "" "MyTrnsedApp.exe"
> exit
>
> But I still have to klick ok in the popup window, choose the .trd file and
> then start the simulation manually.
>
> Any ideas? I am free to migrate to other ways than batch files...
>
> Best regards,
> Jochen
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> Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Jochen Döll
> Division Thermal Systems and Buildings
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> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: "Leo Häberlein" <leohaeberlein at googlemail.com>
> To: thornton at tess-inc.com, trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:36:33 +0200
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] How to use Type 84 properly
> Hey Jeff,
>
> Thanks for the quick answer!!
> Which run-time calculator do you mean? The Type 1233 run-time controller
> from the TESS Library?
> I am a beginner with TRNSYS and due to the fact that I am writing my
> bachelor-thesis, I cant afford buying the TESS library in addition.
> Isn't there another way to solve that problem?
> Sorry for bothering you!
>
> Greets
>
> Leo
>
>
> 2011/4/27 Jeff Thornton <thornton at tess-inc.com>
>
>> <Hi everyone,I am trying to connect a chilled ceiling to a moving average
>> from the last 3 days.If the average ambient temperature is lower than 16
>> degrees for 3 days in a row, the input temperature for the chilled ceiling
>> should go up to 24 degrees.  I am using Type 84 for that, but I am not
>> sure about my input value(how to connect my moving average to my ambient
>> temp) and how my equation for this should look like.I had the idea of a
>> 'greater than/lower than' equation but I can only turn it on and off with
>> this one.  Can anybody help??>
>>
>> Leo,
>>
>> I'm not sure a moving average is going to help you in this case as the
>> average doesn't capture the effect you're looking for.  For example,
>> imagine you has two really cold days followed by a warm day.  In the logic
>> you described above, the chilled ceiling would go up to 24 degrees when it
>> shouldn't (as the third day is warm).  What you need to do is use a
>> run-time calculator in conjunction with a daily integrator or run-time
>> average to better implement your control.  Use the moving average to
>> calculate the average over the last 24 hours, feed that to an equation of
>> the form:
>>
>> Variable=LT(T_Moving_Average,16)
>>
>> Then feed the result of the Variable equation (a one or a zero) to a
>> run-time calculator and the output from the run-time calculator to another
>> equation:
>>
>> OK_24=GT(Runtime,72)
>>
>> Then use this equation as the control for your chilled ceiling.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> Jeff Thornton
>> President - TESS, LLC
>>
>> 22 North Carroll Street - Suite 370
>> Madison WI 53703 USA
>>
>> Phone: 608-274-2577
>> Fax: 608-278-1475
>> E-mail: thornton at tess-inc.com
>> Web: www.tess-inc.com
>>
>>
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