[TRNSYS-users] Heating's heat transfer way and Just-in-time debugger von VC

Wed Mar 23 09:29:36 PDT 2011

Dear all,

     I have some questions about TRNSYS/TRNBUILD:

1. To Heating in TRNBUILD: What's the Heating's heat transfer way?
One-dimensional or 2-dimensional? What's the TRNSYS Heating's work
principle? How does it heat the whole zone? Whether it cann't consider the
zone's temperature gradient?  Or what conditions does it assume before it
calculate? What's the TRNSYS Heating's heat transfer equations?
One-dimensional or 2-dimensional etc.?

2. When I run the Simulation, it automatically connects to  Just-in-time
debugger of Visual Studio: Win32-Ausnahme in TRNBUILD.exe[3300], possible
debugger: new Instanz of Visual Studio 2005, 0052BF3C  mov         eax,dword
ptr [eax+20h], >    TRNBuild.exe!0052bf3c()

"TRNBuild.exe": "C:\WINDOWS\system32\samlib.dll" geladen, Keine Symbole
geladen.
"TRNBuild.exe": "C:\WINDOWS\system32\davclnt.dll" geladen, Keine Symbole
geladen.
Unbehandelte Ausnahme bei 0x0052bf3c in TRNBuild.exe: 0xC0000005:
Zugriffsverletzung beim Lesen an Position 0x00000020.
Eine Ausnahme (erste Chance) bei 0x0052bf3c in TRNBuild.exe: 0xC0000005:
Zugriffsverletzung beim Lesen an Position 0x00000020.
Unbehandelte Ausnahme bei 0x0052bf3c in TRNBuild.exe: 0xC0000005:
Zugriffsverletzung beim Lesen an Position 0x00000020.
Eine Ausnahme (erste Chance) bei 0x0052bf3c in TRNBuild.exe: 0xC0000005:
Zugriffsverletzung beim Lesen an Position 0x00000020.
Unbehandelte Ausnahme bei 0x0052bf3c in TRNBuild.exe: 0xC0000005:
Zugriffsverletzung beim Lesen an Position 0x00000020.

Please tell me how to deal with it?

Many thanks!

Br.

wang

2011/3/22 王洋 <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com>

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>>   1. Re: trnbuild error in generating the      shading/insolation
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>> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
>> From: "Marion Hiller" <hiller at transsolar.com>
>> To: "stefano.avesani" <stefano.avesani at eurac.edu>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:16:50 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] trnbuild error in generating the
>> shading/insolation matrix
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>> Dear Stefano,
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>> I apologize for the delay. I was deeply involved with project worked and
>> ... .
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>> The problem is the “VirtualSurface” between
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>> CHURCH_NORTH and MAIN_CHURCH
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>> CHURCH_SOUTH and MAIN_CHURCH
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>> A “VirtualSurface” is very special. It is drawn in order to close a
>> volume, but it isn’t imported as heat transfer surface and doesn’t appear in
>> TRNBuild anymore.
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>> The insolation matrix calculation uses the Data of TRNbuild and since the
>> virtual surfaces aren’t there the error appears. The “VirtualSurface” in the
>> 3D mode
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>> should be used in conjunction with multi-airnode zones only.
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>> I solved the problem by the changing the “VirtualSurface” into an
>> “adjacent wall” in the zones (see attachement).
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>> If you need to transfer the radiation from CHURCH_NORTH into MAIN_CHURCH
>> you can place a window on the adjacent wall.
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>> This window might be the “no window” with a solar transmission of 100 %.
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>> Cheers,
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>> Marion
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>> *Von:* Avesani Stefano [mailto:stefano.avesani at eurac.edu]
>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 21. März 2011 18:47
>> *An:* Marion Hiller
>> *Betreff:* RE: RE: [TRNSYS-users] trnbuild error in generating the
>> shading/insolation matrix
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>> Dear Marion,
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>> I have managed to solve the software problem for the generation of the
>> shading/insulation matrix.
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>> The fact is that when I let the radiation model as standard the matrix
>> generator give me no errors; on the contrary, with the detailed model I get
>> one error readable in the log file.
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>> Do you have any idea?
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>> Thanks a lot
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>> Stefano
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>> *From:* Marion Hiller [mailto:hiller at transsolar.com]
>> *Sent:* mercoledì 16 marzo 2011 12.53
>> *To:* Avesani Stefano
>> *Subject:* AW: RE: [TRNSYS-users] trnbuild error in generating the
>> shading/insolation matrix
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>> Dear Stefano,
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>> iI imported your IDF to TRNbuild and created a shading matrix without
>> problems.
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>> Did you turn on the detailed model for beam radiation of a zone? Which
>> one?
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>> Best,
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>> Marion
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>> *Von:* Avesani Stefano [mailto:stefano.avesani at eurac.edu]
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 16. März 2011 12:23
>> *An:* Marion Hiller
>> *Betreff:* RE: [TRNSYS-users] trnbuild error in generating the
>> shading/insolation matrix
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>> Dear marion,
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>> Please find attached the idf!
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>> Thanks
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>> Stefano
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>> *From:* Marion Hiller [mailto:hiller at transsolar.com]
>> *Sent:* martedì 15 marzo 2011 7.57
>> *To:* Avesani Stefano
>> *Subject:* AW: [TRNSYS-users] trnbuild error in generating the
>> shading/insolation matrix
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>> Dear Stefano,
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>> if you send me the IDF / b17 file I can have a look at it.
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>> Cheers,
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>> Marion
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>> *Von:* Avesani Stefano [mailto:stefano.avesani at eurac.edu]
>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 14. März 2011 16:53
>> *An:* trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
>> *Betreff:* [TRNSYS-users] trnbuild error in generating the
>> shading/insolation matrix
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>> Dear users,
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>> I am facing the following crashing of TRNbuild when generating the
>> shading/insolation matrix
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>> Pleae find a screenshot of the error in the attached jpg!
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>> Thanks for your help and suggestion!
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>> Stefano
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