[TRNSYS-users] R How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17
David BRADLEY
d.bradley at tess-inc.com
Fri Apr 15 09:31:15 PDT 2011
Wang,
I just tried and it looks as though File: Open works as expected. The
Trnsys17 Studio is used for opening *.tpf files; it will make its best
attempt at automatically updating certain simulation parameters that
changed between Trnsys15 and Trnsys16. TRNBuild is used for opening
*.bui files; it will ask you to redefine your window data as window data
was stored in an external file and not in the *.bui itself with Trnsys15.
David
On 4/15/2011 03:18, � wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>
> How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17? Please
> tell me the detailed steps!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> br.
>
> wang
>
> 2011/4/14 王洋 <wanghongyang1767 at gmail.com
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> 1. Re: time delay by means of type 93 (input value recall)
> (David BRADLEY)
> 2. Re: type 860 PCM Storage Units (David BRADLEY)
> 3. Re: Ground Convection coefficient (David BRADLEY)
> 4. Re: TRNSYS3D plugin question (Marion Hiller)
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> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com
> <mailto:d.bradley at tess-inc.com>>
> To: Stefan Wachter <wachter at mail.hs-ulm.de
> <mailto:wachter at mail.hs-ulm.de>>
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:44:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] time delay by means of type 93
> (input value recall)
> Stefan,
> Type93 simply holds onto a value for as many time steps as
> you ask it to, then "releases" the value. The control ought to
> work the same regardless of the system size. I am not sure
> what you mean by "continuous" controllers. If you mean that
> there are some controllers that continuously modify a flow
> rate in order to maintain an outlet temperature then a simple
> time delay might cause some problems. You might look at some
> of the controllers available in the TESS Controllers Library
> (for Trnsys17) as there are a number of devices in there with
> minimum run times and start-delays.
> Best,
> David
>
>
> On 4/8/2011 04:05, Stefan Wachter wrote:
>> Hello everybody,
>> I am new at trnsys-users.
>> Currently I`m modeling an already existing solar heating
>> system (for hot water).
>> In this system the loading pump is activated by a time delay
>> of 4 minutes (after solar pump is launched).
>> I tried to model this as follows:
>> - simulation time step: 2 minutes
>> - storage of the control signal of the solar pump over the
>> last two time steps by means of type 93 (input value recall)
>> - if the control signal of the solar pump is "1" in the
>> stored two time steps, then the loading pump is launched.
>> It works (tried by a simple example deck) but does it
>> also works in context with a quite big deck (120 m² apertur
>> area, 2 continuous controllers)?
>> I`m concerned about that the small time step of 2 minutes
>> could cause problems (for example oscillations of the
>> controllers).
>> Could this work or have someone of you another idea how i can
>> solve this problem?
>> Thanks a lot.
>> Best regards.
>> Stefan Wachter
>>
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> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com
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> To: Filippo Busato <busato at gest.unipd.it
> <mailto:busato at gest.unipd.it>>
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:11:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type 860 PCM Storage Units
> Filippo,
> I am not familiar with Type860. However, there is a PCM wall
> material component available in the user-donated Type library
> (TRNLib).
>
> http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm
>
> best,
> David
>
>
> On 4/13/2011 07:52, Filippo Busato wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I found in the report “Simulation Models of
>> PCM storage units” (IEA Report C5 Subtask C) that a Type 860
>> has been developed by the Institute HEIG-VD in
>> Yverdon-les-Bains Switzerland, by Jacques Bony and Stephane
>> Citherlet.
>>
>> I would like to know if that type is distributed and whom
>> could I get/buy that from.
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Filippo Busato
>>
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> From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com
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> To: pseudomino at gmx.com <mailto:pseudomino at gmx.com>
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:16:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Ground Convection coefficient
> As noted in TRNBuild (where you set the back side convection
> coefficient), a value smaller than 0.001 is used to indicate
> direct contact between a BOUNDARY wall and a temperature. A
> large value (such as 999) is used with other wall categories
> (ADJACENT, EXTERNAL, etc.) to indicate good thermal contact.
> Best,
> David
>
>
> On 4/13/2011 10:30, pseudomino at gmx.com
> <mailto:pseudomino at gmx.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Usually, when using the assistant to create a multizone
>> building, the convection coefficient between the soil and the
>> floor is set to 999 to reproduce the absence of thermal
>> resistance.
>>
>> But when I create a file using the Trnsys3D import from
>> Sketchup, this same coefficient is set by default to 0,001.
>> Why is that ?
>>
>> Please help me understand
>>
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> From: "Marion Hiller" <hiller at transsolar.com
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> To: trnsys-users <trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
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> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:14:43 +0200
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question
>
> Dear Lampros,
>
> When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17
> shading objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I
> believe that it automatically created one object per surface,
> it is important to know
>
> 1.Is this normal?
>
> => Yes this is normal. Thr pluginallows you to draw several
> shading surfaces into one group because it is more convienent
> than creating a group for each surface.
>
> 2.Does this affect my calculations?
> => Yes, this is the required input and therefore it is working
> fine J
>
> 3.Can I do something to make it behave properly?
> => No, this is the proper behavour
>
> 4.Why does outliner window of my skp, even though it produces
> errors, shows the shading objects properly?
> => because it’s not an error.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marion
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> *Von:*Lampros Karalis [mailto:lkaralis at metal.ntua.gr
> <mailto:lkaralis at metal.ntua.gr>]
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. April 2011 15:23
> *An:* trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu <mailto:trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>
> *Cc:* lkaralis at gmail.com <mailto:lkaralis at gmail.com>
> *Betreff:* [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question
>
> Dear All,
>
> I am working with the latest version of the TRNSYS 3d plugin
> on windows XP and using the trnsys 17.00019 version of the
> simulation Studio.
>
> I already have sketched my building and defined the zones in
> it, as described on the manual.
>
> The most common problems I have met so far have to do with
> some error messages when I try to use the skp file. However I
> read Mr. ‘s Duffy note that we should only use the idf file,
> and therefore I did not worry.
>
> My main problem begun when I started drawing the shadow
> objects that affect my building. I did defined the objects as
> noted on the tutorial (version June 2010) and on the Outliner
> Window I could see two Shading Object groups, (one for the
> nearby building that affect mine and one for a second
> construction that is attached to my building) Please see
> attached skp file.
>
> When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17
> shading objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I
> believe that it automatically created one object per surface,
> it is important to know
>
> 5.Is this normal?
>
> 6.Does this affect my calculations?
>
> 7.Can I do something to make it behave properly?
>
> 8.Why does outliner window of my skp, even though it produces
> errors, shows the shading objects properly?
>
> Any help would be most appreciated, specially on questions #1, #2
>
> Best Regards
>
> Lampros Karalis
>
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