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David Bradley bradley at tess-inc.com
Wed Feb 10 13:43:50 PST 2010


Mariëlle,
  In TRNSYS 16, the absorption for solar radiation can be set using the 
wall type manager. The emissivity for the wall surface, however is 
hardcoded inside Type56. You are correct that Type56 uses a star network 
for radiation exchange. All surfaces radiate to the airnode and the 
airnode radiates to all surfaces. There are no view factors. The one 
control you have is the geosurf factor with which you can specify the 
fraction of longwave radiation entering a zone that falls on a 
particualr surface.

 In TRNSYS 17 you can define "radiation zones" which DO have view 
factors provided that you have used the Trnsys3D plugin for Google 
SketchUp to generate those view factors for your building's geometry. 
You can also adjust the emissivity of the walls within TRNBuild.

  I am not as sure what to suggest for setting the temperature of the 
wall. Inside (and outside) surface temperatures are calculated as part 
of the zone energy balance. You might be able to use a thermostat and 
the "wall gain" feature to control the inside surface temperature of 
your warm wall.
Best,
 David


Mariëlle Nuchelmans wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>  
>
> I'm trying to understand how trnsys deals with long-wave radiation. I 
> know that trnsys calculates it with the star network method from Seem  
> (adjusted by Koschenz in 1997). I looked at the method and I wonder 
> how the absorption factor between surfaces is determined. Seem refers 
> to Gebhart, but this method uses view-factors and trnsys doesn't know 
> them. So how does trnsys determine this absorption factor?
>
>  
>
> I also wonder if it is possible to adjust (or make variable) the mean 
> average wall temperature (used to linearize the long-wave radiation 
> exchange between surfaces between zones). In my project I have one 
> wall which probably is a lot warmer than the other walls.
>
>  
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
>  
>
> Mariëlle Nuchelmans
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