[TRNSYS-users] Convergency problem - using type 534
lucas.lira at scottish-southern.co.uk
lucas.lira at scottish-southern.co.uk
Fri Nov 13 06:07:58 PST 2009
Dear All,
I am currently simulating a system where 2 different energy units are
connected to the same storage tanks at different nodes. In a 20 nodes tank
the first will be connected between nodes 3 and 7 and the second between
nodes 9 and 20. The first will be supplying water at around 55C and the
second unit at around 40C, with a higher flowrate. The load is connected
between nodes 1(extracting from tank) and 18 (return).
The idea of the project is to use the tank stratification to keep the
second energy unit running at as low temperature as possible.
The problem that i am getting is that the system is not converging.
Different units are listed with this problem but the storage tank is
involved in all cases, and some times the convergence problem involves the
tank alone.
Trying to identify if the problem was related with control units operating
in too large time steps i reduced its value down to 30s and later
eliminated all control units. The convergence problem still happens
specially at the storage tank.
The second guess is problems regarding the heat capacity in the tank,
which I am not sure how to solve. The number of nodes were reduced from
the initial 20 to 10, rising each node capacity, but without success.
The inversion mixing flowrate ( type 534 tank) was originally set to -1
but then changed to "amount of water in each tank/ per time step" ( In a
8000 L tank with time step of 5 min and 10 nodes, the flow was set to 9600
kg/h). Even although now inversion was being observed, type 534 was still
presenting convergence problems.
Rising the tank size to 80 000L the problems disappears.
Using the original configuration (20 nodes 8000L capacity and no
inversion):
- Depending of the connection points the convergence problem does
not occur.
- Depending of the first unit's rated power (when reduced), the
convergence does not occur.
- Depending of the losses through the tank (if high), the
convergence problem seems to not occur.
I am not sure what I can do to get the required results. I am simulating a
real case, therefore unable to change tank and energy unit sizes or flow
rates. I do have a strong feeling that the problem is related with the
heat capacity through the nodes in the tank but can't find or think of a
solution (even though small time steps should also make difference,
shouldn't it?).
I would appreciate any idea of how to proceed or suggestion of what else
can be wrong and I may be missing.
Kind regards
Lucas Lira
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