[TRNSYS-users] FW: Hypocaust Type460

aa1 at brighton.ac.uk aa1 at brighton.ac.uk
Tue May 1 01:49:18 PDT 2007


Hello all,

I am resending the attached message as it appears not to get through the
system on my earlier attempt. I will appreciate your help.

Regards
Abdullahi

-----Original Message-----
From: Ahmed Abdullahi 
Sent: 30 April 2007 16:59
To: 'trnsys-users at engr.wisc.edu'
Subject: Hypocaust Type460

Hello all,

I am trying to use Type460 to model earth to air heat exchanger. I am
not sure how best to specify the input Tsurf/Qsurf. I have tried to do
that by using Type 109 TMY2. When I run a simulation using the supplied
parameter definition files, the outlet temperature I am getting is the
same as ambient temperature (inlet temperature) that tells me something
is wrong with my simulation (I suspect the problem is with the Input
Tsurf/Qsurf, but not sure).

I attach here my project file and parameter def & control files; I will
appreciate any suggestions on how to get the project to give me some
reasonable results or how best to specify the input Tsurf/Qsurf for
different surfaces.

Best regards
Abdullahi

Abdullahi Ahmed (BSc. MSc)
School of the Environment
University of Brighton
Cockcroft Building
Lewes Rd.
Brighton
BN2 4GJ

Tel: +44 01273 643455





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* TYPE 460 SUPPLIED PARAMETERS                   
*===============================================
* Nmod,Nsec,Nsoil,Nsurf,NI,NJ,NK [-]:
  2    3    2     3     13 12  7

* DX [m]:   
  1.0000E+00  1.0000E+00
  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00
  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00
  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00
  1.0000E+00  1.0000E+00  

* DY [m]:  
  1.0000E+00  1.0000E+00  0.3000E+00  0.2000E+00
  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00
  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.1000E+00

* DZ [m]:
  0.4000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00
  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.4000E+00

* TypSec [-]:
   1   1   2   2   2   3   3   3   3   3   3   1   1

* TypSoil for front surface [-]:
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

* TypSoil for sec# 1 (through ambient) [-]:
       3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

* TypSoil for sec# 2 (through both zones) [-]:
       3   3   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

* TypSoil for sec# 3 (through setpoint-zone only) [-]:
       3   3   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

* TypSoil for rear surface [-]:
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

* PosInf [-]:
  1   1   1   9  12   7

* Kair0 [kJ/K m2] ,Kair1 [(kJ/K m2)/(m/s)]:
  0.1800E+02  0.1400E+02

* LamSoil [kJ/K m], CvSoil [kJ/K m3]:
  0.7200E+01  0.1000E+04
  0.5400E+01  0.1000E+04

* LamTub [kJ/K m], CvTub [kJ/K m3]:
  0.7200E+01  0.1000E+04

* ThTub [m], CtubCor [-], Cfric [-]:
  5.0000E-03  0.8862E+00  2.0000E-02

* TypWatFlow [-], Vwat [m/h]:
  1   1   1
  0.0000E+00  0.0000E+00  0.0000E+00

* NiniSoil,NiniWat [-]:
  2   1

* TiniSoil [°C], PosIniSoil [-]:
  0.1500E+02
  0.1000E+02  3   3   1  11  12   7

* ThIniWat [m], PosIniWat [-]:
  0.0000E+00

* Nopt [-]:
  17

* TypOpt [-], PosOpt [-]:
  107   3   3   1   5  12   1 !Pfree#
  107   6   3   1  11  12   1 !Pfix#
  103   3   3   1   3  12   7 !Pfront
  104  11   3   1  11  12   7 !Pback
  105   3   3   1  11   3   7 !Pside
  202   1   1   1   1   1   1 !Pwat
  203   1   1   1   1   1   1 !Pfric
  204   1   1   1   1   1   1 !Pin
   22   3   3   1  11  12   7 !PinHt
  109   3   3   1  11  12   7 !PinHs
    5   3   3   1  11  12   7 !Mwat
    6   3   3   1  11  12   7 !dMlat
    9  11   3   1  11  12   7 !dMout
    1   4   3   1   4  12   7 !T1
    1   6   3   1   6  12   7 !T2
    1   8   3   1   8  12   7 !T3
    1  10   3   1  10  12   7 !T4
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* TYPE 61 SUPPLIED PARAMETERS                   
*===============================================
* Nmod,Nsec,Nsoil,Nsurf,NI,NJ,NK [-]:
   2   3   2   3  13  12   7
 
* DX [m]:
  0.1000E+01  0.1000E+01  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00
  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00
  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00  0.6666E+00  0.1000E+01
  0.1000E+01
 
* DY [m]:
  0.1000E+01  0.1000E+01  0.3000E+00  0.2000E+00
  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00
  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.1000E+00
 
* DZ [m]:
  0.4000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00
  0.2000E+00  0.2000E+00  0.4000E+00
 
* TypSec [-]:
   1   1   2   2   2   3   3   3   3   3   3   1
   1
 
* TypSoil for front surface [-]:
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
 
* TypSoil for sec# 1 [-]:
       3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3   3
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
   0   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
 
* TypSoil for sec# 2 [-]:
       3   3   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
 
* TypSoil for sec# 3 [-]:
       3   3   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
   0   2   2   1   0   1   1   1   0   1   1   1   0   0
   0   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   1   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
 
* TypSoil for rear surface [-]:
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
 
* PosInf [-]:
   1   1   1   9  12   7
 
* Kair0 [kJ/hr K m2],                  ,Kair1 [(kJ/hr K m2)/(m/s)]:
  0.1800E+02  0.1400E+02
 
* LamSoil [kJ/hr K m], CvSoil [kJ/K m3]:
  0.7200E+01  0.1000E+04
  0.5400E+01  0.1000E+04
 
* LamTub [kJ/hr K m], CvTub [kJ/K m3]:
  0.7200E+01  0.1000E+04
 
* ThTub [m], CtubCor [-], Rfric [-]:
  0.5000E-02  0.8862E+00  0.2000E-01
 
* TypWat [-], Vwat [m/hr]:
   1   1   1
  0.0000E+00  0.0000E+00  0.0000E+00
 
* NiniSoil,NiniWat [-]:
   2   1
 
* TiniSoil [degC], PosIniSoil [-]:
  0.1500E+02
  0.1000E+02   3   3   1  11  12   7
 
* ThIniWat [m], PosIniWat [-]:
  0.0000E+00
 
* Nopt [-]:
  17
 
* TypOpt [-], PosOpt [-]:
 107   3   3   1   5  12   1
 107   6   3   1  11  12   1
 103   3   3   1   3  12   7
 104  11   3   1  11  12   7
 105   3   3   1  11   3   7
 202   1   1   1   1   1   1
 203   1   1   1   1   1   1
 204   1   1   1   1   1   1
  22   3   3   1  11  12   7
 109   3   3   1  11  12   7
   5   3   3   1  11  12   7
   6   3   3   1  11  12   7
   9  11   3   1  11  12   7
   1   4   3   1   4  12   7
   1   6   3   1   6  12   7
   1   8   3   1   8  12   7
   1  10   3   1  10  12   7
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* TYPE 61 DERIVED PARAMETERS                    
*===============================================
* Ntub [-]:                 8
* IflowIni [-]:             3
* IflowEnd [-]:            11
* PosTub # 1 [-]:           4   2
* PosTub # 2 [-]:           4   6
* PosTub # 3 [-]:           6   4
* PosTub # 4 [-]:           8   2
* PosTub # 5 [-]:           8   6
* PosTub # 6 [-]:          10   4
* PosTub # 7 [-]:          12   2
* PosTub # 8 [-]:          12   6
* LX [m]:                  0.9999E+01
* LY [m]:                  0.8000E+01
* LZ [m]:                  0.1800E+01
* Ltub [m]:                0.5999E+01
* SairTot [m2]:            0.5600E+00
* StubTot [m2]:            0.5955E+02
* ZairTot [m5/2]:          0.2660E+00
* SinfTot [m2]:            0.4631E+02
* Sbord # 1 [m2]:          0.7999E+01
* Sbord # 2 [m2]:          0.1600E+02
* Sbord # 3 [m2]:          0.5600E+02
* Kbord # 1 [kJ/hr K m2    0.3600E+02
* Kbord # 2 [kJ/hr K m2    0.3600E+02
* Kbord # 3 [kJ/hr K m2    0.2700E+02
* DtSoil [hr]:             0.5019E+00
* DtWat [hr]:              none
* FairMinTub [m3/hr]:      0.1988E+03
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* TYPE 61 SIMULATION PARAMETERS                 
*===============================================
* Dt [hr]:                 0.1000E+01
* FairMin [m3/hr]:         0.1000E+00
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