[Trace-users] Revit Export and import into Trace? (Charles Blaschke)
Charles.Blaschke at burthill.com
Charles.Blaschke at burthill.com
Wed Nov 4 20:13:41 PST 2009
Good morning,
I used Revit to export a 4,500 room hospital gbXML file and then bring it
into Trace 700 for the load calculations.
I have found quite a few good and bad things about it. In my case I was
working with a Revit model that was not perfect, and a BIM team that had no
prior knowledge of gbXML, which was my first issue.
Once getting the model setup in a way to extract the gbXML file and
importing the file I found a lot of things that needed to be changed (as
mentioned below). I never had an issue with room names/numbers coming in,
they were ususally spot on. At first I did have an issue with the units of
area between the two programs, so make sure when you bring in your files
that that areas match (contact me if you cannot get yours to work out).
Once the rooms were in the program I had to usually go in and delete almost
all of the walls that it brought in and re-enter them myself (a lot of work
for 4,500 rooms). Once I cleaned up the file i was time to apply the
templates etc. like usual. Since I was working with a simple Revit model
that did not contain any additional information relevant to MEP (number of
people, ventilation req, etc) I was basically using this method of entering
the room numbers and names, just the long way around. If I had to do this
excersise again I would write a script that could read the room schedule
from excel (exported from Revit) and create the rooms with the areas.
Regards,
Charles F. Blaschke IV, EIT, LEED AP
Mechanical Engineer
BURT HILL
Level 2, Block 3
The Green Community – Phase 1
P.O. Box 52764
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
tel: +971 4 810 5700 (ext 5409)
fax: +971 4 810 5800
cell:+971 50 873 7626
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1. Revit Export and import into Trace? (Jason Wendel)
2. Re: Revit Export and import into Trace? (Mike Casella)
3. Re: Revit Export and import into Trace? (Jeff Buscher)
4. Re: Revit Export and import into Trace? (Jason Wendel)
5. Re: Revit Export and import into Trace? (Sturm, Eric A.)
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:40:33 -0700
From: "Jason Wendel" <jwendel at heatheng.com>
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I know it's possible, but how practical is it to export a file from
Revit and import it into Trace 700 for calculations? AND, how do you do
it?
-Jason
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From: "Mike Casella" <mcasella at yeatonassociates.com>
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Hi Jason,
In my opinion you can never really assume that all of the export
information that you extract from Revit is going to directly import into
Trace without you having to "tweak" things after you import it. In
order to do it, you basically have to export your infomation to a gbXML
file. Once you save that somewhere, you then import it into Trace as a
gbXML file and it should ask you what information you actually want to
import.
I don't know if this helps you, but this has been my experience.
Mike Casella
YEATON ASSOCIATES, INC.
66 Jackson Street, Littleton, NH 03561
tel 603-444-6578 fax 603-444-2364
web www.yeatonassociates.com <http://www.yeatonassociates.com/>
mcasella at yeatonassociates.com
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I know it's possible, but how practical is it to export a file from
Revit and import it into Trace 700 for calculations? AND, how do you do
it?
-Jason
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:52:26 -0500
From: Jeff Buscher <jeff.buscher at gmail.com>
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Revit: export gbXML
Trace: File/Import gbXML
I've imported files to see how it does, but I haven't actually used it yet.
It seems to ignore exterior shading, which is the main thing I was hoping
to
get from it.
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> I know it?s possible, but how practical is it to export a file from
Revit
> and import it into Trace 700 for calculations? AND, how do you do it?
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> -Jason
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:54:46 -0700
From: "Jason Wendel" <jwendel at heatheng.com>
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One of my problems is getting it to recognize the room names so I can
distinguish which room is which when it's imported into Trace. It just
names it from 1 to whatever. How do I get it to recognize the names
from the revit file?
-Jason
From: Jeff Buscher [mailto:jeff.buscher at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:52 AM
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Revit: export gbXML
Trace: File/Import gbXML
I've imported files to see how it does, but I haven't actually used it
yet. It seems to ignore exterior shading, which is the main thing I was
hoping to get from it.
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jason Wendel <jwendel at heatheng.com>
wrote:
I know it's possible, but how practical is it to export a file from
Revit and import it into Trace 700 for calculations? AND, how do you do
it?
-Jason
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:22:06 -0500
From: "Sturm, Eric A." <ESturm at trane.com>
To: Jeff Buscher <jeff.buscher at gmail.com>, Jason Wendel
<jwendel at heatheng.com>
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There are a couple changes for TRACE with respect to gbXML. In version
6.2.2 and later, you have the ability to use the Name entered in Revit as
the space name in the TRACE file.
[cid:508201816 at 04112009-1467]
TRACE does not import external shading.
Eric Sturm
CDS Marketing Engineer
Trane Commercial Systems
Ingersoll Rand
3600 Pammel Creek Rd
La Crosse, WI 54601
Office: +1.608.787.3926
Fax: +1.608.787.3005
Email: cdshelp at trane.com<mailto:cdshelp at trane.com>
Website: www.tranecds.com<http://www.tranecds.com/>
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Revit: export gbXML
Trace: File/Import gbXML
I've imported files to see how it does, but I haven't actually used it yet.
It seems to ignore exterior shading, which is the main thing I was hoping
to get from it.
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jason Wendel <jwendel at heatheng.com<
mailto:jwendel at heatheng.com>> wrote:
I know it's possible, but how practical is it to export a file from Revit
and import it into Trace 700 for calculations? AND, how do you do it?
-Jason
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