[Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error

Pasha Korber-Gonzalez pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com
Wed Mar 7 16:04:31 PST 2018


Hello & THANK YOU to Bill, Nick, David, Brian, & Jeff!

I always appreciate you all taking time out of your busy busy schedules to
offer some help.   I am just now able to get back to my computer and work
on the project tonight.  I will re-look at my file and try the suggestions
you all have made.   Fingers-crossed it all goes smooth for this attempt.

Cheers,
Pasha

Ph: 308-763-1593

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:27 PM, Nicholas Caton <
Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com> wrote:

> Sorry for omitting some of these helpful details.
>
>
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>    1. I too am loading and running in DOE2.2 mode from build 7174
>    2. I can’t be completely certain as I didn’t keep good records of my
>    install files, but I believe this is build currently published in the
>    doe2.com downloads section, tagged “release testing” (or similar)
>    3. Commenting to Bill’s suggestion, as I loaded this up I did look for
>    and find those four values are defaulted, but they don’t appear to line up
>    with the values listed in your original error for Ti (in) and To (out) for
>    the two sides of the HX.  You might additionally try manually setting these
>    inputs to match mine regardless of how they default in your instance:
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> *Nick Caton, P.E., BEMP*
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> *From:* Bishop, Bill [mailto:bbishop at pathfinder-ea.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2018 8:23 AM
> *To:* PKConsulting <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* equest-users at onebuilding.org; David Eldridge <
> DEldridge at grummanbutkus.com>; Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton at schneider-
> electric.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error
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> Pasha,
>
> Like Nick, I had no problem getting the model to run using 3.65 build 7174
> in DOE2.2 mode.
>
> It also runs in 3.64 build 7130, once I remove the line “HVACDefaulted =
> 1” from the pd2 file.
>
> A couple suggestions:
>
>    - Go to the Miscellaneous tab of the chiller and Restore Default to
>    the four Heat Exchanger inputs. The error message you sent makes me think
>    these have non-default values.
>    - Copy the .pd2 and .inp files you sent into a new folder and try
>    opening it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> ~Bill
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> *From:* Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> <equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] *On Behalf Of *David
> Eldridge via Equest-users
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:34 PM
> *To:* PKConsulting <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>; Nicholas Caton <
> Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com>
> *Cc:* equest-users at onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error
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> Hopefully Nick’s software version control works. If not, maybe you can
> track down those keywords in the BDL(?) file – I forget – the file with the
> compiled syntax, where the INP doesn’t echo back fields with default values?
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> David
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> *From:* Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> <equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] *On Behalf Of *PKConsulting
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 6:53 PM
> *To:* Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com>
> *Cc:* equest-users at onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error
>
>
>
> Thanks David,  at this point I just don’t know.  I looked through the .inp
> file too and couldn’t find those keywords either.  That is when I turned to
> the group for more help.
>
> I’m completely stumped on this one...
>
> Pasha
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> Ph: 308-763-1593 <(308)%20763-1593>
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> On Mar 6, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton at schneider-
> electric.com> wrote:
>
> Would it bug you to learn this loads and simulates without error on my end?
>
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>
> Gut check:  are you being deliberate to open and simulate with the
> “release testing” build 7174?
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> ~Nick
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> *Nick Caton, P.E., BEMP*
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> E  nicholas.caton at schneider-electric.com
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> 15200 Santa Fe Trail Drive
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> Suite 204
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> United States
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> *From:* Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> <equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] *On Behalf Of *Pasha
> Korber-Gonzalez via Equest-users
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 3:11 PM
> *To:* eQUEST Users List <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error
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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> does anyone have any experience with modeling the Loop to Loop Heat Pump
> chiller?  I'm getting the following error in my file, and right now I am
> auto-sizing everything just to test it to get the file to run.  I cannot
> locate/find where the Qhx Design, SupFlow, SupTi, SupTo key words are
> linked too.  The heat-Exchanger: HRC-T1 is the name of my LtLHP Chiller
> that I input on the loops.
>
>
>
> I've looked through the DOE-2 documents for LtLHP chiller and I can't find
> where this error is occurring so that I can fix it.  Any insight you can
> offer will be appreciated.
>
>
>
> I've also attached my .pd2 & .inp files if anyone is inclined to look at
> them.  Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts and your brains with me!
>
>
>
>
>
>  ***ERROR***************************************************
> ********************
>
>              Heat-Exchanger: HRC-T1                           has
>
>              inconsistent design parameters:
>
>               QhxDesign   SupFlow     SupTi     SupTo
>
>                3541040.      708.      85.0      95.0
>
>                           DemFlow     DemTi     DemTo
>
>                              708.      85.0      75.0
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