[Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error

Nicholas Caton Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com
Wed Mar 7 13:27:30 PST 2018


Sorry for omitting some of these helpful details.


  1.  I too am loading and running in DOE2.2 mode from build 7174
  2.  I can’t be completely certain as I didn’t keep good records of my install files, but I believe this is build currently published in the doe2.com downloads section, tagged “release testing” (or similar)
  3.  Commenting to Bill’s suggestion, as I loaded this up I did look for and find those four values are defaulted, but they don’t appear to line up with the values listed in your original error for Ti (in) and To (out) for the two sides of the HX.  You might additionally try manually setting these inputs to match mine regardless of how they default in your instance:

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Nick Caton, P.E., BEMP
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From: Bishop, Bill [mailto:bbishop at pathfinder-ea.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 8:23 AM
To: PKConsulting <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
Cc: equest-users at onebuilding.org; David Eldridge <DEldridge at grummanbutkus.com>; Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com>
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error

Pasha,
Like Nick, I had no problem getting the model to run using 3.65 build 7174 in DOE2.2 mode.
It also runs in 3.64 build 7130, once I remove the line “HVACDefaulted = 1” from the pd2 file.
A couple suggestions:

  *   Go to the Miscellaneous tab of the chiller and Restore Default to the four Heat Exchanger inputs. The error message you sent makes me think these have non-default values.
  *   Copy the .pd2 and .inp files you sent into a new folder and try opening it again.
Regards,
~Bill

William Bishop, PE, BEMP, BEAP, CEM, LEED AP | Pathfinder Engineers & Architects LLP
Senior Energy Engineer

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From: Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of David Eldridge via Equest-users
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:34 PM
To: PKConsulting <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com<mailto:pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>>; Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com<mailto:Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com>>
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Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error

Hopefully Nick’s software version control works. If not, maybe you can track down those keywords in the BDL(?) file – I forget – the file with the compiled syntax, where the INP doesn’t echo back fields with default values?

David


David S. Eldridge, Jr., P.E., LEED AP BD+C, BEMP, BEAP, HBDP
Grumman/Butkus Associates



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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 6:53 PM
To: Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com<mailto:Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com>>
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Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error

Thanks David,  at this point I just don’t know.  I looked through the .inp file too and couldn’t find those keywords either.  That is when I turned to the group for more help.
I’m completely stumped on this one...
Pasha
Ph: 308-763-1593

On Mar 6, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com<mailto:Nicholas.Caton at schneider-electric.com>> wrote:
Would it bug you to learn this loads and simulates without error on my end?

Gut check:  are you being deliberate to open and simulate with the “release testing” build 7174?

~Nick

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Nick Caton, P.E., BEMP
  Senior Energy Engineer
  Regional Energy Engineering Manager
  Energy and Sustainability Services
  Schneider Electric

D  913.564.6361
M  785.410.3317
F  913.564.6380
E  nicholas.caton at schneider-electric.com<mailto:nicholas.caton at schneider-electric.com>

15200 Santa Fe Trail Drive
Suite 204
Lenexa, KS 66219
United States

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From: Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Pasha Korber-Gonzalez via Equest-users
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 3:11 PM
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Subject: [Equest-users] Loop to Loop Heat Pump Error

Hi All,

does anyone have any experience with modeling the Loop to Loop Heat Pump chiller?  I'm getting the following error in my file, and right now I am auto-sizing everything just to test it to get the file to run.  I cannot locate/find where the Qhx Design, SupFlow, SupTi, SupTo key words are linked too.  The heat-Exchanger: HRC-T1 is the name of my LtLHP Chiller that I input on the loops.

I've looked through the DOE-2 documents for LtLHP chiller and I can't find where this error is occurring so that I can fix it.  Any insight you can offer will be appreciated.

I've also attached my .pd2 & .inp files if anyone is inclined to look at them.  Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts and your brains with me!


 ***ERROR***********************************************************************
             Heat-Exchanger: HRC-T1                           has
             inconsistent design parameters:
              QhxDesign   SupFlow     SupTi     SupTo
               3541040.      708.      85.0      95.0
                          DemFlow     DemTi     DemTo
                             708.      85.0      75.0


Pasha
Ph: 308-763-1593

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