[Equest-users] Equest-users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 17

Wisam Anka wisamqpp at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 15 19:58:06 PDT 2011


Hi, i´m from Venezuela ( nobody uses energy models for buildings) and i am using eQUEST for my gradework.

I have problem to import Weather files

-I got weather file (Caracas) from METEONORM 5.1 in a lot of formats. How can i do to view the correct header of these? or how can i know that i am puting a correct headers. I need to see a template for all the formats.

Thank you

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Subject: Re: [Equest-users] shading schedules ?



Another general tip/reminder: first thing you should do after encountering an input field you are uncertain of is to right-click the field to check whether there is a corresponding help entry for that specific item.  In this case:SHADING-SCHEDULETakes the U-name of a SCHEDULE (with TYPE=MULTIPLIER) that defines hourly values of a multiplier on the solar gain through the window. This represents the shading effect of movable devices such as blinds, drapes, or shutters. Items that change solar transmission may also affect heat conduction. If so, a matching CONDUCT-SCHEDULE should be used. If the SHADING-SCHEDULE is not input, the schedule will default to 1.0 for all hours.“Solar gain” is the load incident on a space as a result of the sun/sky’s energy entering through a fenestration and being absorbed/interreflected by internal surfaces (floors/people/furniture…), manifesting as heat radiation in the process.  If you have a window device or seasonal treatment that varies not only the light coming in but also appreciably affects the conductive transfer of heat through the window/frame opening, then define a CONDUCT-SCHEDULE as well to account for those effects. An aside to clear up a potential source of confusion: building shades can optionally be given a SHADE-SCHEDULE, which is in practice/function very similar to a SHADING-SCHEDULE for windows.  These two terms are used interchangeably here on the lists, at times... may be helpful if you’re searching the archives for more info ;). ~Nick  NICK CATON, P.E.SENIOR ENGINEER Smith & Boucher Engineers25501 west valley parkway, suite 200olathe, ks 66061direct 913.344.0036fax 913.345.0617www.smithboucher.com  From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Pasha Korber-Gonzalez
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Subject: Re: [Equest-users] shading schedules ? Hi 3Q--read the attached DOE-2 document look under page 40 or 47 (I can't remember).  If you look for "Building-Shade"  then you should be able to learn about the shade schedules you are asking about. Cheers,Pasha2011/9/14 罗明刚 <luominggang_001 at 163.com>hello everyone! Can anybody tell me about the shading schedules?  I just dont understand its meaning? when I creat shading schedule,what value should I input? shading coefficient or solar gain ? ANd who can explain the "solar gain" for me ? 3Q


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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:03:59 +0400
Subject: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest

Hi,
 
I am modeling a fully glazed building with inclined walls. In fact, the building envelope is in the form of a globe or like a sphere. Can anybody suggest how this can be modelled in equest.?

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Anoop Vijay CEM, LEED AP


Dubai, UAE



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Subject: [Equest-users] Multiple Heating Hot Water Loops








How do you model 
multiple temperatures for various heating HW loops such as radiant slab 
(120/constant temp) vs. HW loop (160/based on OA reset) for any type system 
if they are all coming from the same boiler plant?
 
Do you provide a 
heat exchanger on the peripheral loop to account for the different 
temperature?
 
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:13:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest



Not easily.   Critical details aside, I expect constructing a full 3D globe in eQuest would be a pretty major challenge for most of us.  I’ve done some complicated curvilinear 3D shapes in the past (isolated helical building shades and similar), but those efforts required much time absorbing all the math involved in describing that shape in order to produce formulae in a spreadsheet to generate the correct polygon vertices and format them in a fashion such that they may be copy/pasted or imported into an .inp file.  Achieving a full globe would likely require a different approach – perhaps a geometrical import via green building studio or referencing a 3D model while defining each facet polygon in detailed mode… I’d personally ask around to see if others have tread a similar path to see if it seems feasible first. …But that’s only my opinion ;).   ~Nick NICK CATON, P.E.SENIOR ENGINEER Smith & Boucher Engineers25501 west valley parkway, suite 200olathe, ks 66061direct 913.344.0036fax 913.345.0617www.smithboucher.com  From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Anoop Vijaykumar
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Subject: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest Hi, I am modeling a fully glazed building with inclined walls. In fact, the building envelope is in the form of a globe or like a sphere. Can anybody suggest how this can be modelled in equest.?

-- Anoop Vijay CEM, LEED AP Dubai, UAE

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To: ncaton at smithboucher.com
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:49:27 +0400
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest

Hi Nick,
 
Thanks for your inputs...yes, this seems a major challenge. I was thinking of creating a dummy floor in between (with 'open to below') and give inclined facades..but I doubt if there are any options in eQuest for inclined or angled facades..in between I read from one of the forums that it can be done in DD Edit...!!! still trying to find ot out, any idea if that option is available in eQuest..?

 
And yes, I need to try it GBS and IES too....I would also like to see anybody here in our community has done similar models with slanted facades/spherical structures etc....
 
Many Thanks,
Anoop.


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com> wrote:




Not easily.  
 
Critical details aside, I expect constructing a full 3D globe in eQuest would be a pretty major challenge for most of us.  I’ve done some complicated curvilinear 3D shapes in the past (isolated helical building shades and similar), but those efforts required much time absorbing all the math involved in describing that shape in order to produce formulae in a spreadsheet to generate the correct polygon vertices and format them in a fashion such that they may be copy/pasted or imported into an .inp file. 

 
Achieving a full globe would likely require a different approach – perhaps a geometrical import via green building studio or referencing a 3D model while defining each facet polygon in detailed mode… I’d personally ask around to see if others have tread a similar path to see if it seems feasible first.

 
…But that’s only my opinion ;).  
 
~Nick

 
NICK CATON, P.E.
SENIOR ENGINEER
 
Smith & Boucher Engineers
25501 west valley parkway, suite 200
olathe, ks 66061
direct 913.344.0036
fax 913.345.0617
www.smithboucher.com 

 

From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Anoop Vijaykumar

Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:04 AM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest




 


Hi,

 

I am modeling a fully glazed building with inclined walls. In fact, the building envelope is in the form of a globe or like a sphere. Can anybody suggest how this can be modelled in equest.?


-- 


Anoop Vijay CEM, LEED AP

 

Dubai, UAE




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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:14:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest



Anoop, You can adjust the angle of exterior wall and roof surfaces by changing the Tilt in DD Edit mode. Don’t worry about the fact that it looks like there are truck-sized holes in the building. Regards,Bill   From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Anoop Vijaykumar
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:49 AM
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Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest Hi Nick, Thanks for your inputs...yes, this seems a major challenge. I was thinking of creating a dummy floor in between (with 'open to below') and give inclined facades..but I doubt if there are any options in eQuest for inclined or angled facades..in between I read from one of the forums that it can be done in DD Edit...!!! still trying to find ot out, any idea if that option is available in eQuest..? And yes, I need to try it GBS and IES too....I would also like to see anybody here in our community has done similar models with slanted facades/spherical structures etc.... Many Thanks,Anoop.On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com> wrote:Not easily.   Critical details aside, I expect constructing a full 3D globe in eQuest would be a pretty major challenge for most of us.  I’ve done some complicated curvilinear 3D shapes in the past (isolated helical building shades and similar), but those efforts required much time absorbing all the math involved in describing that shape in order to produce formulae in a spreadsheet to generate the correct polygon vertices and format them in a fashion such that they may be copy/pasted or imported into an .inp file.  Achieving a full globe would likely require a different approach – perhaps a geometrical import via green building studio or referencing a 3D model while defining each facet polygon in detailed mode… I’d personally ask around to see if others have tread a similar path to see if it seems feasible first. …But that’s only my opinion ;).   ~NickError! Filename not specified. NICK CATON, P.E.SENIOR ENGINEER Smith & Boucher Engineers25501 west valley parkway, suite 200olathe, ks 66061direct 913.344.0036fax 913.345.0617www.smithboucher.com  From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Anoop Vijaykumar
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:04 AM
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Subject: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest Hi, I am modeling a fully glazed building with inclined walls. In fact, the building envelope is in the form of a globe or like a sphere. Can anybody suggest how this can be modelled in equest.?

-- Anoop Vijay CEM, LEED AP Dubai, UAE


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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:14:43 -0700
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Multiple Heating Hot Water Loops






eQuest allows you to create secondary loops with different design temperatures.  Right click on project, create a new circulation loop of type Hot Water, choose secondary subtype, select the primary loop and specify your design temperatures.  It will use a 3-way valve to mix down the temperature you specify.  There may be a couple steps I’m forgetting, but this is the general direction I head in.  Jeremy ___________________________________________Jeremy McClanathan, P.E., BEMP, HFDP, LEED® AP BD+C 4200 194th St SW, Ste 200, Lynnwood, WA 98036P 425-672-1071 | F 425-778-8769 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: Eric Hethcoat [mailto:EHethcoat at lsapa.com] 
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Subject: [Equest-users] Multiple Heating Hot Water Loops How do you model multiple temperatures for various heating HW loops such as radiant slab (120/constant temp) vs. HW loop (160/based on OA reset) for any type system if they are all coming from the same boiler plant? Do you provide a heat exchanger on the peripheral loop to account for the different temperature? Eric Hethcoat, P.E.PartnerLatimer, Sommers & Associates, P.A.3639 SW Summerfield Dr., Suite ATopeka, KS  66614c.  913.481.3256w.  785.233.3232f.  785.233.0647ehethcoat at lsapa.com This message and any attachments included here-in, are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information.  If you are not the intended recipient, any review, disclosure, copying, use, forwarding, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments.  Thank you. 
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:35:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest



Anoop,
If you are modeling against an energy standard, be sure to check when your inclined “wall” becomes a “roof”.  In 90.1-2007 a roof  is “horizontal  or tilted at an angle less than 60 degrees from horizontal”.Regards, Paul Riemer, PE, LEED AP BD+C Associate / MechanicalDirect: 612-465-7696 DUNHAM From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Bishop, Bill
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Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest Anoop, You can adjust the angle of exterior wall and roof surfaces by changing the Tilt in DD Edit mode. Don’t worry about the fact that it looks like there are truck-sized holes in the building. Regards,Bill   From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Anoop Vijaykumar
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:49 AM
To: Nick Caton
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest Hi Nick, Thanks for your inputs...yes, this seems a major challenge. I was thinking of creating a dummy floor in between (with 'open to below') and give inclined facades..but I doubt if there are any options in eQuest for inclined or angled facades..in between I read from one of the forums that it can be done in DD Edit...!!! still trying to find ot out, any idea if that option is available in eQuest..? And yes, I need to try it GBS and IES too....I would also like to see anybody here in our community has done similar models with slanted facades/spherical structures etc.... Many Thanks,Anoop.On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com> wrote:Not easily.   Critical details aside, I expect constructing a full 3D globe in eQuest would be a pretty major challenge for most of us.  I’ve done some complicated curvilinear 3D shapes in the past (isolated helical building shades and similar), but those efforts required much time absorbing all the math involved in describing that shape in order to produce formulae in a spreadsheet to generate the correct polygon vertices and format them in a fashion such that they may be copy/pasted or imported into an .inp file.  Achieving a full globe would likely require a different approach – perhaps a geometrical import via green building studio or referencing a 3D model while defining each facet polygon in detailed mode… I’d personally ask around to see if others have tread a similar path to see if it seems feasible first. …But that’s only my opinion ;).   ~NickError! Filename not specified. NICK CATON, P.E.SENIOR ENGINEER Smith & Boucher Engineers25501 west valley parkway, suite 200olathe, ks 66061direct 913.344.0036fax 913.345.0617www.smithboucher.com  From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Anoop Vijaykumar
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:04 AM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Modeling Inclined walls in eQuest Hi, I am modeling a fully glazed building with inclined walls. In fact, the building envelope is in the form of a globe or like a sphere. Can anybody suggest how this can be modelled in equest.?

-- Anoop Vijay CEM, LEED AP Dubai, UAE


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To: luominggang_001 at 163.com
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:28:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] shading schedules ?



I sense a vocabulary jumble…  I don’t consider myself an expert in the science of window performance, but I think sharing my understanding may help you in this case: ‘Shading Coefficient’ is a property that describes how much solar energy passes through a glazing relative to single pane clear float glass*.  Strictly speaking, it does not include frame or other opaque elements, but sometimes by context people will discuss an SC for an entire window assembly...  SHGC is more commonly used to describe “whole assembly” performance. Fractional shading schedule values in eQuest define how much light gets through an entire window assembly, relative to the same assembly having no additional shading device at all. They’re similar in concept, but not quite the same thing…   I would encourage you to google the terms and feel comfortable understanding the difference before choosing a course of action.   This article looks promising: http://www.commercialwindows.umn.edu/issues_energy2.php ~Nick * Newer eQuest users:  note Glass Type #1000 in the DOE2 Glass Library (accessible in the context menu after right-clicking most fields and after ‘Tutorials and references’) is this exact case:  SC = 1.  NICK CATON, P.E.SENIOR ENGINEER Smith & Boucher Engineers25501 west valley parkway, suite 200olathe, ks 66061direct 913.344.0036fax 913.345.0617www.smithboucher.com  From: 罗明刚 [mailto:luominggang_001 at 163.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:02 PM
To: Nick Caton
Subject: Re:RE: [Equest-users] shading schedules ? 3Q U all in advance.Another question:when I creat shading schedule with the shade type is MOVABLE-EXTERIOR,  I use the shading coefficient as the shading schedule Value?Does It right? At 2011-09-15 05:41:32,"Nick Caton" <ncaton at smithboucher.com> wrote:

Another general tip/reminder: first thing you should do after encountering an input field you are uncertain of is to right-click the field to check whether there is a corresponding help entry for that specific item.  In this case:SHADING-SCHEDULETakes the U-name of a SCHEDULE (with TYPE=MULTIPLIER) that defines hourly values of a multiplier on the solar gain through the window. This represents the shading effect of movable devices such as blinds, drapes, or shutters. Items that change solar transmission may also affect heat conduction. If so, a matching CONDUCT-SCHEDULE should be used. If the SHADING-SCHEDULE is not input, the schedule will default to 1.0 for all hours.“Solar gain” is the load incident on a space as a result of the sun/sky’s energy entering through a fenestration and being absorbed/interreflected by internal surfaces (floors/people/furniture…), manifesting as heat radiation in the process.  If you have a window device or seasonal treatment that varies not only the light coming in but also appreciably affects the conductive transfer of heat through the window/frame opening, then define a CONDUCT-SCHEDULE as well to account for those effects. An aside to clear up a potential source of confusion: building shades can optionally be given a SHADE-SCHEDULE, which is in practice/function very similar to a SHADING-SCHEDULE for windows.  These two terms are used interchangeably here on the lists, at times... may be helpful if you’re searching the archives for more info ;). ~Nick  NICK CATON, P.E.SENIOR ENGINEER Smith & Boucher Engineers25501 west valley parkway, suite 200olathe, ks 66061direct 913.344.0036fax 913.345.0617www.smithboucher.com  From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Pasha Korber-Gonzalez
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:41 AM
To: 罗明刚
Cc: equest-users
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] shading schedules ? Hi 3Q--read the attached DOE-2 document look under page 40 or 47 (I can't remember).  If you look for "Building-Shade"  then you should be able to learn about the shade schedules you are asking about. Cheers,Pasha2011/9/14 罗明刚 <luominggang_001 at 163.com>hello everyone! Can anybody tell me about the shading schedules?  I just dont understand its meaning? when I creat shading schedule,what value should I input? shading coefficient or solar gain ? ANd who can explain the "solar gain" for me ? 3Q


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