[Equest-users] Unmet Heating Hours - ES

[Carol Gardner]

I agree with Omar, especially if you let eQUEST autosize your cfm/sf. It
sets it a .5 cfm/sf which in my experience is almost always too low.

Carol

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Omar Katanani <omar at ecoconsulting.net>wrote:

>  Chris,
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> Your building has 14 underheated zones.
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> Go to “Tools”, “Quality Control Reporting…”, then click the “QC Details”
> tab, and then select “Show Errors Only”.
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> Check section 6: Zone Control and Equipment Sizing.
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> What I usually do is that I increase the supply flow rate for each of these
> 14 zones. This is the best option to solve the issue of unmet loads in my
> opinion.
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> Best,
>
> Omar
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Swanson
> *Sent:* 20 October 2010 21:35
>
> *To:* Pasha Korber-Gonzalez; Kelsey VanTassel
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Unmet Heating Hours - ES
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> Attached are both the .pd2 & .inp files.  I will look into the suggestions
> below in the meantime.
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>
> Chris Swanson
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> Roger D. Fields & Associates
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> (614) 451-2248
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> *From:* Pasha Korber-Gonzalez [mailto:pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:27 PM
> *To:* Kelsey VanTassel
> *Cc:* Chris Swanson; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Unmet Heating Hours - ES
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> It sounds like the heated air is not being allowed to go where there is a
> call for conditioning, have you checked your system reports too? it might
> have to do with your system & temp scheduling.  Can you send your .pd2 &
> .inp file both so that we can open your file in eQuest?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> pkg
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Kelsey VanTassel <
> KVanTassel at sustaineng.com> wrote:
>
> Make sure that your thermostat type is appropriate. Use Reverse Action if
> you want to allow the supply flow in heating mode to rise above the minimum
> flow ratio, otherwise use Proportional. Also try reducing the cool control
> range from 4 deg to 1 deg.
>
>
>
> *Kelsey Van Tassel*
>
> Mechanical Engineer | kvantassel at sustaineng.com
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> 608.836.4488 ext. 20 | Fax: 608.836.4477
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> Sustainable Engineering Group
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Swanson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:16 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Unmet Heating Hours - ES
>
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> I am modeling a two-story elementary school with a VRV / DOAS system in one
> area (classrooms, admin.), and a VAV system in another (gym, cafeteria, food
> prep.).  The unmet heating hours are currently around 750, and I am at my
> wit’s end to reduce them further.  I have incorporated suggestions such as
> increasing the throttling range (currently at 6, helped a little bit) and
> sizing ratio (currently at 1.15, although increasing to 2.00 did not help
> much).  As I have also tried my best to model the VRV / DOAS system, I’m
> still not sure if it is correct…  I’ve just picked up what I could from the
> users archives.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have suggestions for reducing the unmet heating hours that I
> may not be aware of?  I have attached the .inp file.  Can anyone see glaring
> mistakes in the model?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> *Chris Swanson*
>
> Mechanical Designer
>
> Roger D. Fields & Associates
>
> Columbus, Ohio 43220-2777
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> E-mail: cswanson at rdfa.com
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