[Equest-users] Building Square Footage

Rob Hudson rdh4176 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 17 08:52:12 PDT 2010


through careful inspection, i determined that the extra square footage was
being added not by the plenum spaces, but the "conditioned" dummy spaces i
had set up for my RTU and MUA units.  problem solved.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Rob Hudson <rdh4176 at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is the same logic i went through, and double checking my plenum zones
> have shown that they in fact are all unconditioned or plenum.  I can send
> out the .inp file or the output reports if people have time to check it
> out.
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Gaurav Mehta <gmehta75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Rob/ Pasha,
>>
>> The kBtu/SF on the BEPS Report and $/SF on ES-D report use the conditioned
>> floor area. Please see the LS-C report that shows the conditioned floor area
>> you are modeling.
>>
>> LV-B report does show all the spaces including unconditioned spaces
>> and plenums, but the total area is not used in the summary report.
>>
>> Without looking at your model, I can only make a guess that you might be
>> modeling the Plenum zones as 'Conditioned'. By the numbers that you have
>> provided:
>>
>> 9,500 SF x( 3 [floors] + 3 [plenums] ) = 57,000 SF subtract any
>> unconditioned spaces and the answer would be ~ 50,000 SF
>>
>> Please check your inputs for plenum zones under both 'Spaces' and 'Zones'
>> and in both, the 'Zone Type' input should either be 'Unconditioned' or
>> 'Plenum'.
>>
>> Hope it helps.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Gaurav Mehta
>> Sustainable Building Analyst
>> Stantec
>>
>>  *From:* Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 15, 2010 13:40
>> *To:* Rob Hudson <rdh4176 at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Building Square Footage
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> this is a good question and important to understand about how inputs are
>> translated to DOE & reported in the output.
>>
>> Yes you are right that the summary is accounting for the floor area of the
>> unconditioned spaces as well and the plenum spaces.  If you look at report
>> LV-B, summary of spaces in your project you will find the info you are
>> looking for.
>>
>> This report is a listing of all the spaces (or thermal zones) in the
>> project.  Theis listing incudes both conditioned spaces as well as
>> unconditioned spaces and plenums.  In reviewing this report, pay special
>> attention to the column labeled "space floor multiplier".  The total area
>> and volume for each space is this value times the area and volume listed in
>> the last two columns.  The building totals row includes the effect of these
>> multipliers, but the area includes plenums and unconditioned spaces as
>> well.
>>
>> Pasha
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Rob Hudson <rdh4176 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This seems like a silly question, but i would like some input
>>> regardless.  My building has three floors, each about 9,500 square feet.
>>> However, the looking at the BEPU and other reports are showing a total
>>> utility cost of 110632$ and a $/sqft of 2.25.  this shows a sqft of about
>>> 50,000 for the building.  Is this something that i should disregard or is it
>>> relevant?  I have also modeled the unconditioned space above each room as a
>>> separate space.  Could the program be combining this plenum space into the
>>> sqft of the entire building?  Is this plenum sqft affecting the output of
>>> the reports?  any help is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rob Hudson
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