through careful inspection, i determined that the extra square footage was being added not by the plenum spaces, but the "conditioned" dummy spaces i had set up for my RTU and MUA units. problem solved.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Rob Hudson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com">rdh4176@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
That is the same logic i went through, and double checking my plenum zones have shown that they in fact are all unconditioned or plenum. I can send out the .inp file or the output reports if people have time to check it out. <br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Gaurav Mehta <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gmehta75@gmail.com" target="_blank">gmehta75@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Rob/ Pasha,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The kBtu/SF on the BEPS Report and $/SF on ES-D
report use the conditioned floor area. Please see the LS-C report that shows the
conditioned floor area you are modeling. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">LV-B report does show all the spaces including
unconditioned spaces and plenums, but the total area is not used
in the summary report.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Without looking at your model, I can
only make a guess that you might be modeling the Plenum zones as
'Conditioned'. By the numbers that you have provided:</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">9,500 SF x( 3 [floors] + 3 [plenums] ) =
57,000 SF subtract any unconditioned spaces and the answer would be ~
50,000 SF</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Please check your inputs for plenum zones under
both 'Spaces' and 'Zones' and in both, the 'Zone Type' input should
either be 'Unconditioned' or 'Plenum'.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hope it helps.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Best regards,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Gaurav Mehta</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Sustainable Building Analyst</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Stantec</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com" target="_blank">Pasha Korber-Gonzalez</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 15, 2010 13:40</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com" target="_blank">Rob Hudson</a> </div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building Square
Footage</div></div></div><div><div></div><div>
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<div>Hi Rob,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>this is a good question and important to understand about how inputs are
translated to DOE & reported in the output.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Yes you are right that the summary is accounting for the floor area of the
unconditioned spaces as well and the plenum spaces. If you look at report
LV-B, summary of spaces in your project you will find the info you are looking
for.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>This report is a listing of all the spaces (or thermal zones) in the
project. Theis listing incudes both conditioned spaces as well as
unconditioned spaces and plenums. In reviewing this report, pay special
attention to the column labeled "space floor multiplier". The total area
and volume for each space is this value times the area and volume listed in the
last two columns. The building totals row includes the effect of these
multipliers, but the area includes plenums and unconditioned spaces as
well. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Pasha<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Rob Hudson <span dir="ltr"><<a title="mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdh4176@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">This seems like a silly question, but i would like some
input regardless. My building has three floors, each about 9,500 square
feet. However, the looking at the BEPU and other reports are showing a
total utility cost of 110632$ and a $/sqft of 2.25. this shows a sqft of
about 50,000 for the building. Is this something that i should disregard
or is it relevant? I have also modeled the unconditioned space above
each room as a separate space. Could the program be combining this
plenum space into the sqft of the entire building? Is this plenum sqft
affecting the output of the reports? any help is greatly appreciated.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><font color="#888888">Rob
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