[Equest-users] CAUTION and WARNING Messages

Carol Gardner cmg750 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 08:59:20 PDT 2010


I agree with Nick: the cautions are erroneous. Why they even show up is a
mystery especially for a default curve. I spent quite a bit of time trying
to use the DIAGNOSTIC command to turn off errors and cautions like these,
which raise questions from reviewers that then need to be answered by us
hapless modelers: to no avail. I tried putting DIAGNOSTIC ERRORS at the
start of the file, the middle of the file, the end of the file, using BDL
but to no avail. It just disappears. It would be very handy to be able to
use the DIAGNOSTIC command the way it is supposed to be used, to evaluate as
many entries as you want when you start your model and then to get rid of
superfluous warnings and cautions when you are done. I sure hope the eQUEST
development team sees fit to fix this soon!

Carol

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com> wrote:

>  Varkie,
>
>
>
> If it’s any consolation, I’ve dug deep at this CAUTION and come up with
> little.  There’s an extended discussion between myself and others on the
> list trying to determine the root of these FPLR cautions, but to the best of
> my knowledge it’s a mystery.  I can say these cautions appear erroneous, as
> the CFM’s modeled by the corresponding fans appear to remain within expected
> ranges.  For further reading, search for “CAUTION: Variable Speed Drive
> FPLR” in the archives.
>
>
>
> Once I determined the cautions were erroneous, I went on to try and figure
> out how to have eQuest not report cautions, so I could get a clean ATTN
> report, but I’ve yet to successfully use the line DIAGNOSTIC WARNINGS ..  within
> an *.inp (I’m not sure it’s possible, actually).  I’d be interested to hear
> if you can come up with any new information…
>
> Best of luck!
>
>
>
> ~Nick
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Varkie C Thomas
> *Sent:* Monday, July 19, 2010 9:18 AM
> *To:* Carol Gardner
> *Cc:* equest-users at onebuilding.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] CAUTION and WARNING Messages
>
>
>
> Carol.
>
>
>
> *There were no changes to the FPLR curve data.*  I am trying to create
> case studies for teaching based on projects that were modeled with DOE21E.
> It could be any program.  The buildings are modified and simplified to
> eliminate repetitive details and to demonstrate design issues.  With eQ the
> building and the envelope (even complex ones) can be created within a couple
> of hours by tracing ACAD drawings.  But on large project you cannot
> recognize any of the components names in the reports.  The DOE2 programs
> require a component name before entering the data.  eQ should make this a
> priority in future versions.  I think I will continue creating the building
> model in eQ and use the dimensional data in eQ (azimuths, coordinates,
> lengths, areas, etc) in creating DOE21E models and analyze the options in
> DOE21E.
>
>
>
> Varkie
>
>
>
> *----- Original Message -----*
>
> *From*: Carol Gardner <cmg750 at gmail.com>
>
> *Date*: Monday, July 19, 2010 0:58 am
>
> *Subject*: Re: [Equest-users] CAUTION and WARNING Messages
>
> Varkie,
>
> I took a quick look at this and I don't see the problem either. Did you
> make any changes to the FPLR curve data?
>
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I hope someone can help me.  I am getting CAUTION messages *�** In curve:
> Variable Speed Drive FPLR  the dependent value is exceeding **the limits.
> Etc.,**�**  *
>
>
>
> The first one (my attempt at modeling the baseline without WSE that I
> enquired about earlier) *used all eQUEST defaults for the bldg type **�**High-Tech
> & Bio-Tech**�** including dimensions.  Only the Misc-Eqp was changed to 5
> watts/sf.*  *The attached eQ inp-pd2 files are in Detailed-Edit*. There
> were about 20 pages of �curve� CAUTION messages.
>
>
>
> The second is for a hotel bldg.  *The attached eQ inp-pd2 files are In
> Design-Development*.  You can view them in DD.  *Except for minor changes,
> the input for all Shells used eQ defaults.*  The component names
> (schedules, spaces, zones, etc) are also eQ defaults.  There were about 2000
> pages of �curve� CAUTION messages.
>
>
>
> The third is for an office bldg.
>
> In Run-1, *except for changing the component names, the input for all
> Shells used eQ defaults.*  There were about 2000 pages of �curve� CAUTION
> messages. No WARNING messages
>
> Run-2 used *OA-FROM-SYSTEM*.  *There were several WARNING regarding heat
> capacity* *and the CAUTION messages of Run-1.*
>
> * *
>
> *I have attached (1) the eQ inp & pd2 files ; (2) the CAUTION & WARNING
> messages; and (3) the project descriptions of all the examples**.*
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> Varkie.
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