[Equest-users] modeling of a printing facility

Nick Caton ncaton at smithboucher.com
Tue Feb 9 14:53:32 PST 2010


Hi Haissam - it's been awhile!

I'm not sure about LEED, but I can answer on behalf of 90.1!

90.1 starts off with a handy scope chapter that partially answers your
first question and directly answers your second.

I'd suggest reading all of section 2 "Scope," (less than half a page),
but of particular note:
"2.3)  The provisions of this standard do not apply to:  (c) equipment
and portions of building systems that use energy primarily to provide
for industrial, manufacturing, or commercial processes."

I believe this pretty directly tells you 90.1 does not apply to the
portion of your building which is intended as an industrial printing
facility.  The office/storage areas however may certainly be within
90.1's scope.  Further reading of Section 2 reveals the number of
stories in your building has no bearing on whether 90.1 applies unless
it's a residential/multi-family structure.

The above Section 2 is identical in 90.1-2004 and 2007, by the way...
not sure of earlier years.

I would think logically (which I know may mean little in the face of
USGBC) you would be able to go along with a LEED submittal/approval
process while carefully defining that area of the building and equipment
which is exempt from the 90.1 standard, as defined by 90.1.  I'd love to
hear the experience of others who've been in this situation!

~Nick

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of haissam
mahmoud
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 2:59 PM
To: equest-users
Subject: [Equest-users] modeling of a printing facility

Dear fellow questers
Hope you are doing fine
I am simulating  a facility plant dedicated for printing, and trying
to get LEED certification for it
The plant is only 3 stories height with storage area,offices  area and
manufacturing area;
First; I am not sure if ASHRAE 90.1 applies to this project,because it
is only 3 stories height and it is industrial;if not, what standard
shall be followed in this case in order to get the baseline?
Second; about the process loads in the energy modeling issue: do we
consider the printing machines as part of the process  loads?the
printing machines are  running 24 hours/7 days with a  large power
consumption, which  means that the LEED certification cannot be
achieved!!
Hope you can provide me with some guidance
Thanks anyway

Haissam Al Mahmoud,BME,LEED AP
Mechanical Project Engineer
Beirut,Lebanon
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