[TRNSYS-users] WG: RE: radiation and shadow, type 56

[Marion Hiller]

Karol,

 

Well, does the list file contain a notice that the SHM is used during
the simulation?

 

I suggest to use NTYPE 101 and 102 for checking that Shading occurs of
the  window of the bedroom. 

In winter time you need to see an effect for the Bedroom,

If you have no external or internal shading control activated.

 

Best,

 

Marion

 

Dipl.-Ing. Marion Hiller 
TRANSSOLAR: KlimaEngineering - Technologien für energieeffizientes Bauen
und Nutzerkomfort in Gebäude 
Munich - New York - Stuttgart + 49.711.67976.0 

Transsolar Energietechnik GmbH, Curiestrasse 2, 70563 Stuttgart 
Amtsgericht Stuttgart - HRB 23347, Steuernummer 99073/00911, USt-IdNr.:
DE152272639

Geschäftsführer: Dipl.Ing. Matthias Schuler, Dipl.Ing. Thomas Auer,
Dipl.Phys. Stefan Holst, Prof. Dipl.-Ing. Bleicher 

 

 

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Von: Karol Bandurski [mailto:karol.bandurski at put.poznan.pl] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012 10:25
An: Marion Hiller; trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
Betreff: RE: radiation and shadow, type 56

 

Dear Marion and Others

 

I try to improve my file on myself. It seems to me that it is prepared
well, but results are still strange:

 

Building with surrounding buildings has only a little higher heating
demand but there is no difference in solar gains for each version (with
and without surrounding buildings).

 

I use ntype 74 for solar radiation gains.

 

I enclose  .bui files and .idf files exported form TRNBuild (Mnr8_alone
is from MNr8, and Mnr8_shading is from Mnr8_3D_sh)

 

I will be grateful for your time and hints!

 

Regards,

Karol

------------------------------------------------

Karol Bandurski MSc.

Institute of Environmental Engineering

Poznan University of Technology

www.ee.put.poznan.pl

www.put.poznan.pl

 

 

 

From: Marion Hiller [mailto:hiller at transsolar.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:59 PM
To: karol.bandurski
Cc: trnsys-users
Subject: AW: radiation and shadow, type 56

 

Karol, 

 

No this is impossible. 

 

However, the bui files aren’t the same, especially the geometric part of
the Mnr8_sh contains only geometric information of 2 zones 

BATHROOM and HALL. 

Also the calculated volume isn’t the same. 

 

It looks like all the zones with the GEOMODE=MIXED are missing. How did
you create shading file? 

 

I repaired you shading file concerning the geometry. Are the results now
ok? 

 

Best, 

 

Marion 

 

 

 

Dipl.-Ing. Marion Hiller 
TRANSSOLAR: KlimaEngineering - Technologien für energieeffizientes Bauen
und Nutzerkomfort in Gebäude 
Munich - New York - Stuttgart + 49.711.67976.0 

Transsolar Energietechnik GmbH, Curiestrasse 2, 70563 Stuttgart 
Amtsgericht Stuttgart - HRB 23347, Steuernummer 99073/00911, USt-IdNr.:
DE152272639 

Geschäftsführer: Dipl.Ing. Matthias Schuler, Dipl.Ing. Thomas Auer,
Dipl.Phys. Stefan Holst, Prof. Dipl.-Ing. Bleicher  

  

 

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Von: Karol Bandurski [mailto:karol.bandurski at put.poznan.pl] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2012 00:24
An: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu; Marion Hiller
Betreff: radiation and shadow, type 56 

 

Dear All, 

 

I have two .bui files of the building. The first file is assumes that
there is no buildings next to consider one( Mnr8), the second file
contain shadow zone of  surrounding buildings (Mnr8_sh). 

 

The energy demand are higher for version with building shadow zone –it
seems OK. But I am looking for solar radiation that reach building
windows in each case, so I use NTYPE 69 or 74 (it is ok???). And the
problem is that the building with shadow has higher values of those
NTYPE then the building without shadow. How it is possible??? 

 

I will be grateful for any hints! 

 

Regard, 

Karol 


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