[Equest-users] e-quest for dummies

Nick Caton ncaton at smithboucher.com
Thu Mar 18 15:16:15 PDT 2010


As a supplement to Carol's advice, note that for the 2nd level, whose
floor is exposed to the ground-level parking garage, there is an option
in the DD wizard screen #3 to choose "Over Parking Garage" or "Exposed
to Ambient Conditions."  I'm not sure of the differences between the
two, but I've used "Exposed to Ambient Conditions" a few times before,
and it seems to do exactly what it sounds like!  I would strongly
suggest specifying a custom layer-by-layer construction in the DD
wizards on these envelope screens - this is a step I avoided as seeming
difficult when I was starting out with eQuest, but it turns out to be
surprisingly easy and a great way to save yourself time from tweaking
U-value/Mass properties later in the detailed mode.

 

As Carol describes, it sounds like you need at least 3 shells.  Top
shell is simply the footprint of that level.  Middle shell wraps around
the lobby's 2nd floor (just make it a tall shell).  Bottom shell is the
lobby.  Here and attached is a fast visual:

 

 

 

If you lock the X/Y coordinates properly, eQuest should recognize the
planes of the top half of the lobby shell coincide with 2nd-level
"wrapping" walls, and will automate a few things for you regarding tying
those two shells together.  There's more to read on this if you'd like
to learn more in the archives
<http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/> .

 

Best of luck!

 

~Nick

 

 

 

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Butler
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:09 PM
To: Carol Gardner; Stephen Sorensen
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] e-quest for dummies

 

http://elcca-exchange.blogspot.com/2007/03/equest-multi-level-spaces.htm
l This is a good primer on modeling multi story spaces.

 

tb 

 

From: Carol Gardner [mailto:cmg750 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Stephen Sorensen
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] e-quest for dummies

 

It seems like you ould surround the lobby with either on or two shells,
Can't see it so hard to visualize whether you can use one. Anyway at
least the first one carefully at x=0, y=0 and z= whatever you height is.
I call it on top of first floor when you are asked, make sure you select
floor over conditioned space, no roof, and then proceed with your
space/zones. The third floor should be easier as you no longer have the
lobby to deal with so it should just be x=0, y=0, and z=top of second
floor. this shell should be specified as being above the second floor,
with the floor over a conditioned space and a roof.

Hope that helps.

If not attach a ,pd2 and.inp file so we can see what you are facing.

Carol

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Stephen Sorensen <
ssorensen80 at gmail.com> wrote:

I am new to e-Quest and have gone through, or at least tried to go
through the process (DD Wizard) of setting up a project but am running
into issues when trying to add more complex structural features such as
adding a second and third floor (both of which cover the entire
footprint area of the structure) to an open air, ground level parking
area. The parking area does have a small 600 SF conditioned lobby who's
ceiling height extends to the top of the second floor. Is anyone aware
of, or would anyone be willing to allow me access to, step by step
instructional walk-throughs for more complex projects such as I have
described? I look forward to hearing from the group.

 

Thanks,

 

Stephen Sorensen

Hansen Engineering

Friendsville, PA

P: 570-553-4284

 


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