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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As a supplement to Carol’s advice, note that for the 2<sup>nd</sup>
level, whose floor is exposed to the ground-level parking garage, there is an
option in the DD wizard screen #3 to choose “Over Parking Garage”
or “Exposed to Ambient Conditions.” I’m not sure of the
differences between the two, but I’ve used “Exposed to Ambient
Conditions” a few times before, and it seems to do exactly what it sounds
like! I would strongly suggest specifying a custom layer-by-layer
construction in the DD wizards on these envelope screens – this is a step
I avoided as seeming difficult when I was starting out with eQuest, but it
turns out to be surprisingly easy and a great way to save yourself time from tweaking
U-value/Mass properties later in the detailed mode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As Carol describes, it sounds like you need at least 3
shells. Top shell is simply the footprint of that level. Middle
shell wraps around the lobby’s 2<sup>nd</sup> floor (just make it a tall
shell). Bottom shell is the lobby. Here and attached is a fast
visual:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>If you lock the X/Y coordinates properly, eQuest should
recognize the planes of the top half of the lobby shell coincide with 2<sup>nd</sup>-level
“wrapping” walls, and will automate a few things for you regarding tying
those two shells together. There’s more to read on this if you’d
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href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/">in
the archives</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom
Butler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carol Gardner; Stephen Sorensen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] e-quest for dummies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://elcca-exchange.blogspot.com/2007/03/equest-multi-level-spaces.html">http://elcca-exchange.blogspot.com/2007/03/equest-multi-level-spaces.html</a>
This is a good primer on modeling multi story spaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Carol Gardner
[mailto:cmg750@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephen Sorensen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] e-quest for dummies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>It seems like you ould surround
the lobby with either on or two shells, Can't see it so hard to visualize whether
you can use one. Anyway at least the first one carefully at x=0, y=0 and z=
whatever you height is. I call it on top of first floor when you are asked,
make sure you select floor over conditioned space, no roof, and then proceed
with your space/zones. The third floor should be easier as you no longer have
the lobby to deal with so it should just be x=0, y=0, and z=top of second
floor. this shell should be specified as being above the second floor, with the
floor over a conditioned space and a roof.<br>
<br>
Hope that helps.<br>
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If not attach a ,pd2 and.inp file so we can see what you are facing.<br>
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Carol<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Stephen Sorensen <<a
href="mailto:ssorensen80@gmail.com">ssorensen80@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
am new to e-Quest and have gone through, or at least tried to go through the
process (DD Wizard) of setting up a project but am running into issues when
trying to add more complex structural features such as adding a second and
third floor (both of which cover the entire footprint area of the structure) to
an open air, ground level parking area. The parking area does have a small 600
SF conditioned lobby who’s ceiling height extends to the top of the
second floor. Is anyone aware of, or would anyone be willing to allow me access
to, step by step instructional walk-throughs for more complex projects such as
I have described? I look forward to hearing from the group.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Stephen
Sorensen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hansen
Engineering<o:p></o:p></p>
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PA<o:p></o:p></p>
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