[Bldg-sim] Fwd: [Equest-users] A Response & Statement on Energy Modeling Services: Meaning and Value

[Jeremiah Crossett]

Cristian,
I think that each model is vastly different and must be priced based upon
the requirements of the project. For instance if there are complex systems
that can either not be modeled in eQuest or would involve very intensive
work around's that basically compromise the premise of using eQuest and
more capable software such as energy plus, TRNSYS or ESP-r would be
required and the modeler would have to do more work to complete the job
than they should charge more. (indoor swimming pools, variable refrigerant
flow heat pumps, green roofs and phase change materials come to mind)  The
challenge with charging the same for a non-compliance project such as an
energy audit model as a compliance project such as a LEED certification is
that there is less work for the modeler and more reward for the client for
a LEED project, so more value. You might want to start out with
Pasha's recommendation and then provide a "discount" if the model is of
simple basic systems  and the client is not pursuing platinum certification.
 Also keep in mind that commonly modeling is bundled with engineering and
design services offered by large firms with multi member teams so the value
for a "model only" from a free lance individual might be much less.
 Basically your service is worth what you say it is and so long as your
client is happy and your business is profitable you should be fine.
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*Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy Solutions*
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On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Cristian Salvador Jara Toro <
cristian.jara.toro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, I´ve rewritten red words below (in blue) because they were sound wrong
> to me when I read them again.
> And, this comments are referenced to a very long .doc document attached by
> Nick months ago, so, maybe you should read it before...
>
>
>
>    - LEED are increasing his users/fans, and not only northamerica nor
>    europe but south america is very close too, so, rates have to be universal
>    or local? (it seem to me that this kind of filter dosen´t exist on GBCI in
>    projects register matters).
>
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>    - LEED are increasing his users/fans and south america is not an
>    exception. so, rates (It referenced to utility rates, billable rates..,
>    what we, the modelers, 'have' to be paid for modelling works) have to be
>    universal or local (Pasha mentioned a $0.20/ft2 based on his experience (I
>    suppose he is an expert)... in other words, Do I have to charge for same as
>    Pasha charge (suppose same experience on modelling) or do we need to adjust
>    values considering different countries? (it seem to me that this kind of
>    filter dosen´t exist on GBCI in projects register matters).
>
>
> Thanks Carolyn for your comments, and hope this clarify you!
> regards,
>
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> *Cristian Jara Toro*
> Ingeniero - Editor de Libros.
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> Cel: 6 207 8566
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> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Carolyn Balant <CBalant at mcw.com> wrote:
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>>
>>    - LEED are increasing his users/fans, and not only northamerica nor
>>    europe but south america is very close too, so, rates have to be universal
>>    or local? (it seem to me that this kind of filter dosen´t exist on GBCI in
>>    projects register matters). ****
>>
>> If I understand your question, the utility rates used to calculate the
>> costs should be local.  This can change the type of measures that are taken
>> or LEED credits that are pursued. I had a project in Saudi Arabia a few
>> years ago.  They do not pay anything for energy so it was difficult to
>> evaluate the LEED credits.
>>
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